It has occurred to me that since this group is getting revived for 2018 that I should probably start a new OOC topic for it.  Sorry for being so slow about it.  I keep hoping that I'm not the only one responsible for maintaining this Community.  But since no one else has acted, I guess I have to.

That I can't figure out how to give GM priveldges to someone else.

Okay then.  For the past couple of days I have been thinking of a running a game where the story is kind of based on Samurai 7.  Except instead of bandits it's the Empire, and instead of samurai it's Rebels.  So I would start out the 7 heroes solo so they can begin on their own personal journeys of rebellion.  And just because it's a Community game, I'd be happy to take on anyone's characters they would like to revive as Rebels.  I take it then that means starting level would be 3rd or 4th?  I'm fine with that.

When Disney bought Lucas Films, I was discussing with many friends how Disney could make money on Star Wars films forever. One of the ways I suggested they could is by tapping into the different genres of movies(as they have with a War Movie, and now a Heist Movie). One of the things I brought up as an example was a Seven Samurai. It's a setting that would be excellent for a Star Wars story.

When Disney bought Lucas Films, I was discussing with many friends how Disney could make money on Star Wars films forever. One of the ways I suggested they could is by tapping into the different genres of movies(as they have with a War Movie, and now a Heist Movie). One of the things I brought up as an example was a Seven Samurai. It's a setting that would be excellent for a Star Wars story.

It's a funny cyclical coincidence there.  One of Lucas' inspirations for Star Wars and Jedi were the Kurosawa films.  So it only makes sense then that some of those Kurosawa films should be adapted to the Star Wars Universe.

There have actually been at least two official adaptations of Seven Samurai already: the Kid and Quixotic Jedi templates from way back in WEG D6 were directly adapted from a Star Wars comic from before Empire Strikes Back came out, and then Clone Wars did a Seven Samurai episode. It was really good.

Star Wars is such a big and complicated franchise that it is difficult launching new products and make everybody happy. On one end you need to be mainstream to reach the vastest possible public, and on the other end you need to keep the unber-geek appeal high as well...

Difficult?  I'd say impossible.  You can never please all of the people all of the time.  You can only go one way or the other.  So naturally, Disney being Disney, they've chosen to try to reach the vastest possible public.  Hence why all these "Star Wars Stories" aren't really "Star Warsy" at all. They are just trying to mimic other genres of movies but set them in the Star Wars Universe.  First Rogue One was a War Movie that felt a lot like Guns of Navarone to me.  Then Solo goes Heist Movie that felt like any train robbery film complete with double-cross at the end.

That all being said, I am expecting one of these Star Wars Stories to be a Romantic Comedy.  Well you really can't do The Courtship of Princess Leia as a movie without Carrie Fisher.  So I was thinking it would be funny if the Boba Fett Movie turned out to be a RomCom.  Why does Boba Fett have that long braid of hair on his armor?  Did he love a woman once and then she died?  Was that Aurra Sing's hair?

I would like to offer my heartfelt congratulations to Peace, as his Tatooine Manhunt campaign recently passed the 8,000 posts milestone.
Well done! These things do not happen by chance!

That's very hard to pull off, well done!

By (very) far the biggest game of Star Wars Saga Edition on RPoL, whether active or inactive!!!

Huh. I never knew and I played there since the beginning! It's a great game.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:58, Sat 08 Sept 2018.

Thanks for the accolade. Any game is more than just a GM, its a team effort with all the players in equal parts.

The game has 2 original players and 3 original characters so an awesome effort by all. I'm happy that the players enjoy it.

By my estimation the game is coming up to it's 7 year anniversary.

Congratulations again!

I have come across a new thing in Star Wars gaming!  New rules!  Yay!  Ones you don't have to pay an arm and a leg for!  And best of all, you probably already know most of the rules!  Take a gander and tell me what you think.  I think they're worth at least a play test.

Link to Reddit - Scroll to Bottom for Downloads
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:05, Thu 04 Oct 2018.

I'm actually going to be in a one-shot of that tomorrow. Hoping it works out all nice. So far it's gotten me thinking about looking for a Star Wars Saga GM, though I imagine that's more nostalgia than a dig on SW5e. :P

There's a Discord server and everything. The guy in charge of it all is pretty nice, and around more often than not. It's a good little community.

A cursory look at the book gives me a good impression!  I just don’t think I’d find anyone running it very easily.

In reply to PC RedFoxMagi (msg # 16):

I was thinking of running it as a play test.  But that is if the response to a cursory examination is all positive.

If I'll move away from SWSE, I think I will go to something much easier to run, perhaps a d6 system, or Fate, or Stellar Adventures, or something like that.
I'm definitely clunky when mass fightings start and perhaps simpler system would help... :(
On the other hand, with a D&D5 system you should find more players...

In reply to GM Samurai Kato (msg # 17):

Let me know!  I'd like to have some experience with it before I run anything.  5E is usually pretty easy to pick up and play, which is a good advantage with some people I know that don't like the more crunchy systems.

In reply to PC Yaztromo (msg # 18):

Yeah... more players... Great...  :-|  Finding enough players for Saga Edition was never a problem for me.  Finding players who would stick around?  Now that's a problem in any game system.  But yeah, I'm sure it would get more new players when you hand them a simple game system that they're already familiar with, and tell them that all the books that are available are free off of Reddit.

In reply to GM Samurai Kato (msg # 20):

I understand you... I found out that Star Wars players are on average a bit more "difficult" than other rulesets players WRT staying in a game. There are quite a lot out there, but my impression is that the franchise is so charged with emotions, dreams and expectations (of course slightly different from player to player), that it is perhaps easier to have a game out of the expectations of a specific player.
Other rulesets that are perhaps less loaded emotionally (or have less detail in the setting?) often have players happier to play along and explore the world as it is presented.

Did you have the same impression, running games in different worlds and with different rulesets?

How dare you call Star Wars fans too "charged with emotions, dreams, and expectations"?  It's not like a large number of Star Wars fans would boycott the franchise based solely on being very unhappy with one movie!  Oh, wait... Never mind.  Point well taken.  Perhaps then Star Was players have a strong tendency to boycott a game based on not liking the way the story is going?  And here I always thought that they were a bunch of ego-maniacs who constantly want their characters to be the center of attention.  That would explain why my longest running games tended to be solo games.  Though still more failed than lasted because the player disappeared without warning.

My experience in running games (and I'm talking in real life, not online) is really weird.  My players always wanted to explore the world as I presented it.  They did not want to follow the published material.  Grayhawk, Forgotten Realms, Spelljammer... it didn't matter the game world, they wanted nothing to do with the published material.  World of Darkness they particularly wanted my own fantasy take on it instead of the dark world as is presented.  And New World of Darkness they rage quit on.  I think the only game world they really liked was Legend of the 5 Rings.  That was until they had to decide the best course of action based solely on the Code of Bushido.  Then they messed up, got killed, and got mad at me for it.  Torg they also found interesting but that's not one game world but rather nine all on one earth.  Shadowrun they liked to.

The most important thing to how much they enjoyed a game was that their characters were the center of their own little universe, not ancillary to the events of the world.  Their most fatal flaw, I would say, was that if there were to be set events in the world then they would want to keep them from happening.  If I said, "It's Fate.  Trying to change Fate only gets you in trouble.  The best thing you can do is just roll with Fate and survive it." then they would get mad.

Of course, what was weird about this group of players was A) There were a lot of them.  Something like a dozen floating in and out of games depending on what night of the week it was and what game system was being run.  B) Almost all of them were GMs.  So if a game ended, it was usually because someone said they really wanted to run a game on that night.  In effect then everyone wanted to run the game, and they did so by having their characters do stuff.  They were not ones to just go along with events or allow themselves to be railroaded.  So running modules was right out.  I suspect none of them today play Adventure League.

A little celebration as Living Force: Cularin (link to another game) passed the 1,000 posts mark ;)

Woohoo! Congratulations to you and your players! :D

Happy New Year, Ladies and Gentlemen!

Happy 2019! I hope everyone had a good Life Day, too!

Anyone have any suggestions for a tech specialist character I am playing in a Table Top game?  Non-combat options for SWSE are few and far between.  Specific Gear, Feats, and Talents would be appreciated.

Tech Specialists in SWSE are always made using the Scoundrel class.  But the Scout and Noble will also do.  Unfortunately, Noble doesn't really have any Talent Tree that will help.

Feats you must take are Tech Specialist (like duh) and Scavenger (so you can use junk to make stuff).  A Skill Focus or two doesn't hurt.  You can take Hasty Modification (that has Tech Specialist as a prerequisite)  that lets you exchange traits given to your gear by Tech Specialist.  Or you take Signature Device (also has Tech Specialist as a prerequisite) to allow one item to be easier to modify and to have two traits on it, although only one can be used at a time.  Gearhead is a good feat to take because it lets you do stuff in half the time.

Talent-wise, the Scout's Fringer Tree has some Talents that help with jury-rigging.

Well, if you wanna go Noble, the Wealth and Engineer talents could be of use. Though it's just as good if there's another Noble with Wealth in the party to finance your operations.

https://randroll.com/archive/s...rs-generators-guide/ :)

I was thinking about posting this in the "useful links" thread (link to a message in this game), but I found out that it is closed so I can't post there.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:31, Sun 24 Feb 2019.

May the 4th be with you, always....

It was a rather sad celebration, without Chewbacca...
This message was last edited by the player at 02:30, Sun 05 May 2019.

Yeah, Chewbacca always was the heart and soul of Star Wars who never let us down.

Hey! have a look at this labour of love about that famous canteen: http://cantinacustoms.tripod.com/id20.htm

Grr, why does rpol keep insisting there are new posts in this forum?

I can see that Tatooine Manhunt link to another game recently reached 8,500 posts. A nice little milestone.
Congratulations!

How are your games progressing?

Is there anybody around here? :)

I am.

I'm part of Peace's game, which seemed to hit the holiday lull a bit early this year.

Yeah, I plan to pick up the pace again soon. It's the game 8th birthday next week!

Wasn't complaining at all GM. Simply giving a status update as requested.



I checked on the birthday earlier. I started 1 Jan 2014, so 6 years for me coming up. My longest on RPOL I think.

Happy birthday!!! :)

I've just recently gotten into two games that look very promising, as long as the Jedi don't mess them up, lol.

Best of luck! :)

Merry Christmas, Ladies and Gentlemen!

May the 4th be with you

May the Fourth be with you!!!

And also with you!

A year later...May the 4th be with you!

Many years later.... :)

Huh, this space doesn't see much use anymore, :(  I personally do not like the new system but it seems that most people do.

I have a question.  I built a droid that is trying to use heavy weapons.  What feats and talents do whoever is still here think would be best?

Unfortunately not, at the moment, but maybe in the future the tide will turn.
Such is life.

Well, it's hard to sustain a game. Even harder to sustain one with forward progress. It's nearly impossible to get any leveling done.

There are still a few SWSE games ongoing link to "&gm=" but the publisher is not there anymore.
However, under the specific point of view of publishing adventures and campaigns ready to play, there was never a huge support.

This isn't entirely true... granted for 95% of Pbp games its pretty accurate but an exceptional GM can make this not so.

I have been in a Hackmaster game on Myth–Weaver (first Pbp game I have played not on Rpol in almost 20 years).

The GM set a daily posting rate to which most players abide by, but when a player is absent play does not stop...  The GM moves it forward assuming an action for the missing players characters or the other players NPC the missing characters dislogue... we all have given permission for this...  forward progress is valued more than waiting for people to post for days on end... we started at level 1 not even a month and a half ago and my Dwarven Berzerker Cleric is one encounter away from 7th level.

Granted its a different genre but pbp is pbp so that doesn't really matter... the Gm sets the pace and as long as they are committed to it then there is always progress.

Best game I've played in 30+ years of RPG's
This message was last edited by the player at 22:40, Thu 19 May 2022.

Be grateful your dad didn't slice your hand off!

Hi there. New player signing in for the first time.

Is there much of a player base for the Star War Saga rules on RPOL? I'm considering starting a game and this system seems like a good option as all character creation information is available online.

Just remember leveling up is horrifyingly slow on Rpol, so if you want Jedi Knights, you'd have to start people at level 8 (7/1, probably)

Here link to "&gm=" you can see the SWSE games currently ongoing on RPoL: there is some activity, although not as massive as for other rulesets.
My experience when I look for players is that sometimes you can find too many, sometimes too little. Not sure why.
The bottom line is that I suggest you try and see what happens.
Please post somewhere on this community when you are ready to start: we may be able to help.
This message was last edited by the GM at 21:24, Tue 16 Aug 2022.

The popularity of Star Wars saga games isn’t going to change now its out of print and that newer games are out. If you are looking for a Star Wars game where the rules are available online you could also look at West End Games Star Wars, everything is available to download at www.d6holocron.com

Progress and levelling can be slow on pbp games but I don’t think it’s a problem to start at level 1. In Star Wars saga characters begin in my opinion fairly powerful and a level 1 Jedi can act like a Jedi Knight without much imagination being used, there wasn’t really anything Obi Wan did in The New Hope which a level 1 Jedi couldn’t have a go at.

From a story point of view, I wouldn't let a level 1 Jedi out of the temple. They've got tests enough to get to level 2 before you leave home. On the other side, a level 7 Jedi probably isn't far from the temple either, he's undergoing the trials, finishing them gets him to level 8 and Knighthood.

Also, I am heartily sick to death of level 1 games in any genre and avoid them.

The level of a character is an abstract game concept, for me that shouldn't impede the game. So in your game you can call level 1 Jedi knights if you want.

However if you don't enjoy level 1 games, you play how you want to play. Every table plays by its own rules.

There is a fan-based 5e version out that is entirely free also.

In reply to PC Mahatatain (msg # 57):

Here: link to a message in another game you can find a GM request for a "new" SWSE game (just like the game that you will propose). Various weeks passed, but the players may still be there.

Long as you promise me level 8 or something, I'll play.

No level 1s, however, unless I'm also playing a padawan for my level 8.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:01, Tue 16 Aug 2022.

Thanks for the feedback everyone. Very interesting indeed.

In reply to PC Mahatatain (msg # 66):

Keep us updated on how it goes! :)

Does anyone have a simple RPOL Saga edition character sheet that they could share with me? I've looked through the RPOL gaming resources thread and there is a very complicated one that looks fantastic but is probably going to confuse less RPOL code savvy players.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Name       :                                   | Race   :
Player     :                                   | Gender :
Age        :                                   | Size   :
Force Pts  :                                   | Speed  :
Occupation :
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       Ability    |   Temporary   | Class                 Level
     Score   Mod  |  Score   Mod  |
STR    00    +0   |               |
DEX    00    +0   |               |
CON    00    +0   |               |
INT    00    +0   |               |
WIS    00    +0   |               |XP  :     0            Char Level:
CHA    00    +0   |               |Need:                  ECL       :
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        Total   Current   Subdual |                Total   Abil   Skill   Misc
HP    :   00                      | Initiative  :   +0   =  +0      +0
        Total   Fort + Misc       |
DMG/TH:   00   =                  | Perception  :   +0   =  +0
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        Total      Level   Class   Ability   Misc
Fort   :    =  10 +  0   +   0   +    0    +
Reflex :    =  10 +  0   +   0   +    0    +
Will   :    =  10 +  0   +   0   +    0    +
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CONDITION TRACK
 X  Normal
    - 1 to all defenses, attacks, skill, and ability checks
    - 2 to all defenses, attacks, skill, and ability checks
    - 5 to all defenses, attacks, skill, and ability checks
    -10 to all defenses, attacks, skill, and ability checks, move at half speed
    HELPLESS
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        Total   Base   Str   Size |         Total   Base   Dex   Size  Other
Melee :  +0   =  0   +     +      | Range :  +0   =  0   +     +
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CLASS ABILITIES:

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TALENT TREES AND TALENTS

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SPECIAL TRAITS:

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BACKGROUND: Occupation -
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                                 Key    Skill Ability    1/2              Misc
   SKILLS                      Ability   Mod    Mod     Level   Trained   Mod
 + Acrobatics                    Dex      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
 + Athletics                     Str      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Deception                     Cha      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
 + Endurance                     Con      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Gather Information            Cha      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>+ Initiative:                   Dex      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Knowledge: Galactic Lore      Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Knowledge: Bureaucracy        Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Knowledge: Life Sciences      Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Knowledge: Physical Sciences  Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Knowledge: Tactics            Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Knowledge: Technology         Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Mechanic                      Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Perception                    Wis      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Persuasion                    Cha      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Pilot                         Dex      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>+ Ride                          Dex      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
 + Stealth                       Dex      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
   Survival                      Wis      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Treat Injury                  Wis      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Use Computer                  Int      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0
>  Use the Force                 Cha      0  =  +0        0       +0      +0

TOTAL WEIGHT:        KG
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WEAPON                  COST     DAMAGE     STUN     RATE OF     WEIGHT     TYPE
                                            DAMAGE   FIRE


EQUIPMENT                           COST     WEIGHT


TOTAL WEIGHT:        KG

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FORCE POWERS/SECRETS:

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CREDITS:

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In reply to PC Balthazar (msg # 69):

Thanks. Appreciated.

Just to day that my game is now live and recruiting. I've posted a link in the Players Wanted thread here as well as in the main RPOL one.

Best of luck! :)

Does anyone know what dating system should be used for campaigns set prior to BBY 0?

The campaign I'm setting up starts in BBY 3, 16 years after Order 66, but what year would that be called as the Battle of Yavin and the destruction of the first Death Star hasn't happened yet?

I'm not sure: did you have a look in the Wookiepedia?
In the Cularin system (where I'm running my current SW campaign) they had a bespoke system that is substantially based on when the system was "discovered" (A.A = After Artiom - see http://wiki.rpol.net/71689).
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:57, Wed 07 Sept 2022.

Any news of GM Peace? It looks like he disappeared with no notice from RPoL in April :(
He was running the biggest (for number of posts) SWSE campaign on RPoL link to another game