Discuss your favorite classes and species here, along with questions related to character builds, talent trees, and whatever else strikes your fancy.

I'll lead off with a species-related comment - in the KotOR CG, they included new species to cover all the Jedi Masters of the Watchcircle from the KotOR comic books, excluding the one I actually wanted stats for - the Togruta.  However, since Shaak-Ti (the most prominent Togruta in SW, I'd say) looks to be an important figure in the new The Force Unleashed video game/novel/comic book/RPG source book, I'm hoping we'll finally get Togruta-stats in the Force Unleashed CG.  I don't really mind the lack of Togruta stats, however - with Miraluka, Arkanian, and Cathar all published in KotOR, I'm set for my 'exotic species' needs, heh.  Oh, and can you tell I generally prefer my aliens at least mostly humanoid?  :p


This message was last edited by the GM at 02:39, Sat 23 Aug 2008.

It has been requested that I join the discussion here.  As such, I would like to say that my favorite classes are Space Bum, Druish Princess, and Mog.  :D

Yeah, but do you have the requisite "Pilot" skill to go with the absolutely necessary feat of "Operate Winnebago"?

Honestly, my favorite species is Zabrak, in both the RCR and SECR.  My favorite class is likely Scout, primarily because they can bring so many skills to the table, but are still capable of holding their own in a firefight.

EDIT: Realized what I had typed, courtesy of Miko.
This message was last edited by the player at 18:54, Thu 28 Aug 2008.

Hm. Wouldn't it make more sense to start as a Scout? Since you don't get bonus skill points for multi-classing... you're basically throwing away what you consider to be the class's main attribute.

Me, I like Gungan soldiers. Now that's an insane Reflex defense.

Other than that - Human Nobles are downright scary. ^^

Why yes, sir.  I do happen to have both of those.  Along with the must-have Jam feat.  :)  *giggles*  I even took the Rambo Chick talent.  :p

*makes a note to keep Princess' hair in an indestructible shell removable only in dire need*  :D

No meade, I didn't see you playing with your dolls again.  :p

How many assholes are on this ship?!

Everybody raises their hand.  "Yo!"

*giggles lots*

"I told you never to call me on this wall!  This is an unlisted wall!"

"Hello, Marleen.  Hello, Sharleen."

"I'm Marleen."  "I'm Sharleen."

"Chew your gum!"

*giggles lots*

lol.  Avid Spaceballs fan, then?

And I do believe I'm off to shower.  An hour and a half of wally-ball, followed by an hour and a half of weights, and I'm beat.

Did you not see my bio-lines?  :p  *giggles*

Or how about...

"It's MegaMaid, Sir.  She's gone from suck to blow!"

*giggles more*

Wouldn't Scoundrel or Scout work better for Reflex, though?



Zabrak are awesome, heh.  I had a Zabrak Scout/Soldier/Bounty Hunter in play in a game that had to be closed not too long ago, and though I didn't get too much time to discover all his abilities, I really loved the character, he was as tough as they come, heh.


And, to push this thing back on it's tracks (feel free to move the Spaceballs-discussion to the main OOC! :p), what are your thoughts on melee vs. ranged characters?  I've yet to do a melee character that wasn't a Jedi, but I'd like to try out a regular Soldier melee-warrior sometime soon.  But are any of the other classes at all viable for Melee?  Nobles and Scoundrels feel like they'd be far too light on HPs to stand toe-to-toe with the bad guys (though Nobles do have a new Fencing talent tree in KotOR CG...), but could it be done with a Scout, putting emphasis on mobility and moving around the battlegrounds?

I have a melee based Trandoshan npc in the table top game that I'm currently running, set during the tail end of the New Sith Wars, just before the rise of Darth Bane. He dual wields vibroblades and has done well. A player in the game also has a melee character, a wookie soldier that is just hankering to get ahold of a vibro axe and start chopping people in half.

Edit: If you're going to go melee, before KotOR, you almost had to go soldier, just to get the armor talent tree since you can't count on cover/concealment when you're going toe to toe with someone.
This message was last edited by the player at 09:49, Fri 29 Aug 2008.

That's pretty much the way.
If you want to go for Melee as Soldier although the Brawler Talent Tree is pretty nice, I think You should begin with Armor Specialist and then move on to either Weapon Spec or Brawler.

Although it was only a Hybrid I played(Mandalorian Soldier with a focus on Rifle/Exotic Weapons) he was almost on par with the Jedi. The Moment our Melee Jedi was LV 5 I think it was, my Character was still a pretty good Melee fighter, but his specialisation was Rifles with Exotic Weapon Support and could only beat the Jedi with the Combination of all of the mentioned, but then it would be almost a certain defeat.

I think I have to buy the KotOR book next I am getting more and more excited about the content.

What do you guys prefere as the Battle Commander Character? My Group thinks only with a healthy Multiclass you can really go for a Battle Commander(We had a Soldier/Noble going for Officer)

In reply to GM Palpatine (msg #14):

LOL; that was probably me.  Otok Kreeth, right?

In reply to PC meade352mxs (msg #17):

Doesn't ring any bells, sorry.

Was it a game on RPoL?

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure I've never heard of a "Otok Kreeth" before. . .

Hmmm, interesting.  It may not have been me, then.  I've been on a Zabrak Scout/Soldier kick lately, and I haven't noticed anyone else playing them.  Ah well.  Reeth Ortak, maybe?

Well, I already know who played the Zabrak in question - me.  :p  Sorry if that wasn't clear, heh. . .

Oh, well then.  Guess that settles it, huh?  :D

Could I ask for Miraluka stats?

I'm sure that unless it's posted up on the WotC website, you're supposed to buy the book for stuff like that. I'm not sure its legal. I'm not familiar with copyright law though.

I believe rallenc82 is correct - at least technically.  While we probably can't post things like that in public threads, however, we can share it with our gaming groups - as long as it's bits and pieces of published books, and not the entire things.  At least, that's about what I was told when I asked Cruinne about it when it came up at an earlier time.  And, since I already have that particular species typed up, anyway, I figure I'd throw this link out there:

link to a message in another game

It's got Miraluka, Arkanian (including Arkanian Offshoot), Kathar, Feeorin and Bith from published sources, and a couple of others that were published online by WotC.

Also, any chance of stats for these guys, do we think?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Celegian

Because Jedi Master brain-in-a-jar is just too great a concept to pass up.

Here is one person's take:

Celegian
Ability Modifiers: -2Dex, +2Int, +2Wis, -2Cha
Large-size: -1 Size penalty to Reflex Defense, -5 Size penalty on Stealth. Encumbrance x2, +5 Size bonus to Threshold.
Base Speed: Within a cyanogen atmosphere or floating life-support chamber, Celegians fly at a base speed of 4 squares. Celegians have a swim speed of 10 squares in the cyanogen seas of their homeworld.
Telepathy: Celegians can use the Use the Force skill to create a telepathic link untrained and without the Force Sensitivity Feat. In addition, the DC for using Telepathy is reduced by 5.

I really wanna play a Miraluka and  Cathar

Are Jawas allowed as a species?
I'd love to play one of 'em

Hm, are there stats for Jawas?  I'd think that would be a popular one to get stats for.

But then again, do you have any idea how much they stink?

You could just modify an Ewok

Yes, but they are awesome.

That's gotta be at least a -4 CHA adjustment...

Jawas can be found in the Saga Edition Conversion guide:

http://www.wizards.com/default...ticle/sagaconversion

Awesome!
As PCs?

Awww... only -2??

and Jawa's are aparently pretty bad-ass...  any chances of getting an All Jawa game going?

"Salvaging on the High Sands! - A Jawa Story" ...sounds like a winner to me!
This message was last edited by the player at 01:27, Wed 10 Sept 2008.

That's just... wrong...

o.O

That, that would just be wrong. For some reason I'm thinking it would be like having a Kobold PC in a DnD campaign. Only the entire party is kobolds....

O.o

Hence the reason it would be AWESOME...  hmmm.. I might have to think about this one... I’ve already got hundreds of ideas running around my head... maybe I’ll have to try and convince Palpatine and Princess to bump me up to GM status so that I could run something like this...  *runs off to bake some cookies*

I love those Jawas
They got a sweetass ride as well

o.O

Sorry, had bad experiences with a player playing a Kobold character. Played it darn near useless and the guy made it almost impossible for the group to meet without him. Then he up and left.

So with a group of Kobolds/Jawas played in a fun but not other player limiting way, I guess it could be fine.

Y'know, one of my D&D games had a kobold character in the party.  He turned out to be one of the most fun and memorable characters in that group.  Total team player and managed to handle all sorts of things other players just tried to avoid.  Even managed to kill three giants and get the party Rogue out of one of their stomachs.

I'd say a jawa PC could be awesome, with the right player.  Then again, the same player with the kobold wanted me to run a Star Wars game and let him play a giant albino dark Jedi jawa.  (I refused, so one of our other players ran the game and let him do it, instead.  I have yet to wipe the shame from my hands.)  Barring total madness, it might work out just fine.

Just as they don't succum to the 'Jar Jar' disease of interseting and unique characters; being an annoying ****.

"Interesting".  Lawlz.

Alright, GM Palpatine gave me the Ok to do this as long as I can come up with at least three interested players.  Ideally I would be looking for 4-5 players with 3-4 Jawas and 1 Droid.  So, who's interested?

Playing a Jawa?  That actually sounds kind of fun.  ^^

I'm tempted, but I was kinda hoping to save my second character for a Jedi...  Well, we'll see.

All Jawa game...that sounds pretty cool.  Definitely one that I'd love to be able to read the threads after it is played.

Jedi Jawa.  Problem Solved.

What era would this game be?  Rebellion?

I'm thinking Clone Wars, Prior to Episode I, Maybe Way way back in the Old Republic.  But first things first, we need to get at least two more people to show interest before we can even get it off of the ground... I wonder why rankaratar hasn't started jumping for joy wanting to play... he was the one that wanted to play a Jawa in the first place... I'm also thinking of allowing one of the Jawas to be a "Witch Doctor" Having Force Sensitivity and a few "mystical Powers" (No Jedi classes, but someone could take the feats)

Be sure NOT to count me in on the Jawa game.  It sounds cool, but I'm already two character committed at this point.

(Just making sure you don't think you have more prospective players than you by way of miscount on account of my comment <grin> )

Nope, i need a minimum of three, Kitty is the only one that has said they want to play, so i still need 2 more.

I'm willing to play jawa game

That's two. :)

I'm thinking of making a scout.  My brother jmkool is considering playing.  He might be interested in playing the 'witch doctor' type Jawa.  I dunno.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:09, Fri 12 Sept 2008.

Count me for a droid possibly?

That's three! xD

Droids would work, Jawas like droids.
So... a clan of a scout Jawa, a weapons Jawa (me, I like big guns), a Witchdoctor Jawa and a robot.

Sweet

what kinda droid you need for the game?

A Destroyer!!

lol dont think it would work that would work too well :P

Count me in.  Witch Docter, maybe a Noble?  Maybe both?  I will look into this...

Maybe the adventure could take place in the beginning of the Rebellion era.  It starts with us out in the deserts of Tatooine, and we pick up two wandering droids, a 3PO and an R2...  Of course, we'd have to escape the empire when they blast the sand crawler.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:56, Fri 12 Sept 2008.

Something that could conceivably wind up on Tatooine and is wimpy enough to get a restraining bolt smacked on it by a lowly Jawa :p

How about a disabled custom droid? looks like a protocol droid but isn't?

One of the reasons I don't like SE is because of how un-customizable the droids are.

Still, Jawas have ion guns, right?

Because everyone loves that old HK model protocol droid.  Luke wanted one when he was growing up, but all he got was a whiny 3P0.  XD

That would actually be a pretty interesting character dynamic, wouldn't it...?

Thats not what I was thinking at all *Whistles and looks away*


Ok so it was :P.

So back on topic, what are the details for age, height, weight, names etc on Jawas?

A Protocol Droid would be the most preferred Model, but an Astromech might work.  Still, the droid would have to be able to communicate with the Jawas, so it would have to be capable of speaking Bocce at the very minimum... (And at least one of the Jawas would have to speak Bocce too)

This game is going to be light-ish on combat.  there will be much more scouting/sneaking/breaking into places/selling piece of junk 3Po's to anyone with a few credits :p

And yes, Jawa's get ion guns.  I’ll even allow sporting rifles for a "tracker" type of Jawa.

Can we find some conversion rules for the Arms and Equipment Guide?  Get some nice variants on the plain ol' ion gun.

And what are your views on character customization my droid being the example. Is it ok for us to customize in different way other than whats in the book?

Or rather than Bocce, couldn't the droid just learn Jawa Trade?

hey the droid will have a name ya know :P

Yeah, well we'll call him 'the droid' even when he does have a name, so why does it matter?

Psht like i know just saying it will have a name :P

Conversions for Arms and Equipment are found in the same place they tucked the Jawa stats, in the conversion guide from SWd20 to SWSE.

http://www.wizards.com/starwar..._Saga_Conversion.pdf

regarding stuff not in the SE core books you can use the conversion guide posted above and any official web enhancements.

Vorantha: your droid will be salvaged off of a wrecked ship, which will be our initial plot hook, you will need to be some kind of protocol or assistant droid as that is what is most likely to be on that particular ship.  I don't see any reason why a droid couldn't use a stun weapon as it does not 'harm' living beings, your programing may need a slight tweak but that shouldn't be a problem if one of our Jawa's is a gearhead/slicer.  But that's not to say that you should start out with combat capabilities, just that you will probably gain them at some point.

As for language, Jawa trade would work for the droid if it had some reason to learn it, but the droid will be from the core and just have recently come to tatooine, so Bocce is much more likely to be a language that the droid and the Jawas would all know.

For our Jawas: please don't be rollingup Jawa commandos... :p you may end up being Jawa commandos... But to start with you are simple scavengers and traders. Some posibilities include mechanics, slicers, maybe a hunter who uses an old beat up sporting rifle to shoot wimp rats to barbeque... Maybe a droid specialist, etc.  Our "witch doctor" should either be a shaman type quasi spiritual leader, or a young upstart who may have a lowly position, but has a few special tricks up his sleeve.  Think along the lines of Hobbits from the begining of LoTR, you are not warriors when you start out, just simple folk.  The campaign will be a bit low tech in tearms of fights... Don't expect to get into fire fights with storm trooper squads, more like having to sneak around or outsmart a big dumb gamorrean guard to get inside a building, etc.
This message was last edited by the player at 04:06, Fri 12 Sept 2008.

Do we need to send in character sheets?

I'll take the Witch Doctor position, an toss it in with the Nobe class if I can.  I don't have the book at the moment, so figuring out if that will work will have to be done later.

Furousha - have you decided which era you want to run this game in? I'll head over and give you GM access over thre.

Yeah, it will be set in KotOR times, several years before the first video game.

>> I would go and fix you up, but I'm waiting for my own access there. lol

Lol, well that's ok.  I have a big meeting in a few hours, so I won’t be on much until after then anyway.  After I get back from the meeting I will put my official game add up here.

For those of you that already expressed interest; you can start sending me Character Descriptions and Sheets via PM.

Okay, working on a sheet now! ^^

I'll have a sheet sometime today. I've not had access to my book sorry.

Yeah, I haven't really had much access to the book either lately.  I've finally gotten most of it done, though.  Just talents, feats, and equipment left.

EDIT: Done!  Sending for approval... ^^
This message was last edited by the player at 20:50, Tue 16 Sept 2008.

Just an update on the Jawa game (since this is where we seem to be discussing it) I have 3 Jawas and 1 droid, I will take up to one more Jawa and 1 more Droid, but I am willing to start the game with the four players that I have.  Applications will be accepted through Friday night and the game will start Saturday.

lol, jawas.