Shouldn't be a need to relog.  I had odd message indicators today when I switched between devices, which should generally be expected, but I'm still keeping an eye on it.

I have an idea floating around in my head to detect when you switch devices and update the read cookies like you've done a relog.  Pondering it for a bit longer before I pull the trigger on that.

Also just updated the main menu a tad, the "main menu" menu links should now jump to the various spots on the screen (if you've got enough listed to cause a scroll) plus it'll hide the menu items you don't have any of (i.e. won't display a discussion forum link if you don't have any discussion forums stickied).

A fix for the cookie issue would certainly solve what seems to be the most frequently brought up issue.

Ok I think I've got the view impersonation and private lines (which includes private groups and language lines) sorted.  About the most complicated thing I've done here.

When viewing a thread with private groups it will only reveal the lines to players who have a character in that group.  Basically if a character would qualify as a recipient in a private line but they're not a participant in thread to then it'll skip them as a valid recipient.  This includes "not".  So if you say "not woof" but woof isn't a party to the thread then it'll skip excluding them, so the owner of woof will still see the line.

This flows to view impersonating as well.  Even further, if you view as woof and woof isn't part of the thread then you're going to see absolutely no private lines and all languages will be scrambled.  There is a minor exception to this when you're a GM and using "not" but you'll see that.

The preview notice will let you know if you've opted to view as a character who can't see the thread.

I also fixed private lines and previewing for private messages, same rules apply as above.

As mentioned it's very complicated so let me know if anything awry happens.

Also removed some more tables before I tackled the above.  Little bit in rMail and info screens, you shouldn't notice much change there as the visual output should be the same.

In reply to jase (msg # 486):

Thats much better for the preview as but I think the languages preview might still be broken. If I preview as the poster with a language group tag then his speech is legible. If I preview as another character of the same language group then the speech is gobbledygook to her.

That's by design, check the note at the top.

If it wasn't that way then you'd know who was in the private group, which has its members hidden.

Thank you  :)  I might not be as active as I was, but I appreciate the work you do to keep the site developing and growing.  All power to your elbow :)

To further clarify "preview as", unless you're a GM it's severely limited when using private groups (and languages, which are just a special way of addressing groups).

In a nutshell to avoid revealing members of a private group it'll assume the "worst".

That is if you say "private to group xxx" it'll assume the player is not a member.  If you say "private to not group xxx" it'll assume they are a member.

So, if you preview as "Bob" who is or isn't a member of the private group "Whatever" (the result is the same regardless whether he's a member of the private group):


Also, if you preview as Bob and he doesn't have access to the thread then everything will be hidden/scrambled anyway.  Kind of a moot point as they can't even open the thread, but the permission check figures the character has no access to the thread so hides everything.  Behaviour of this could be changed and instead provide a theoretical view if they did have access, might be slightly helpful of a GM plans on moving the thread group after (or giving the character access to that group).

That table helps clarify things.  I appreciate the inclusion.

Thanks jase, that's awesome! Looking forward to testing it out. =)

I gave a quick shot at the new design. I like it for the most part, it is easier to read, more modern, and has a more intuitive interface.

Throwing a few suggestions around:
- Make portraits about 50% bigger; they look so much tinier compared to the new text boxes!
- Dice roller UI could be a bit more compact in order to fit on a single page

And a bug, I've been granted lurker access to a game, I can see it just fine with the old design, but not with the new one, it just says that there are no messages for this game.
link to another game

I checked that link out, and it was fine, probably the threads are in group 1 or more.

Can we get some more themes migrated to the responsive site? I've really gotten used to the Dark Purple theme here -- it's the color I associate with RPoL -- and the idea of trying to manually duplicate it over there is daunting.

We shrink the portraits 50% on the thread list as it makes for a nice reduced size scaling (some machines/browsers don't do it very well if you set it to 66% or 75%).  If we increased the size it'd be double what it currently is, I think it'd be too large and take up too much space on the left.

Have already shrunk the roller but agreed it's still too long, will look into that.

Fixed threads for lurkers, the access routine it wasn't retrieving lurker access at all.  Was a quick fix so hopefully didn't break something else.

To create a purple (or any coloured) theme I'm going to go off an use the same theme creation tool you're using... so maybe the "daunting" task of creating a dozen different colours could not all be left up to me...?  (c;
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Have tweaked the die roller.  Not as spacious as before but that's what you get when you cut out space!  (c;

If you're looking to shrink that page, you could put what is currently Step 3 first, with one option "Manual," and only show Steps 1 & 2 if that's selected.  The rest of Step 3 -- the additional box to the right and the descriptive text below -- would only be shown if it isn't "Manual," so it doesn't save a lot when on Manual, but it saves a little.

You could also modernize the look by removing the lines between the sections and, instead, use background colors to delineate as you've done all over, which shrinks it further.

Hi I don't know if this is already in your bugs list but I have noticed that if I have a game with, say, four pages and navigate to page 2, the links at the top that show 'Page 1 of x' and then the page numbers doesn't change. It always says page 1 of and page 1 is highlighted / not linked. So to get to page 1 again you have to click on the game menu. Not really a biggie but just thought I'd mention it.

In reply to Zag24 (msg # 498):

Some of the options in step 2 are available when rolling a system (record die springs to mind) so not quite as simple.  Collapsing sections can be quite helpful, not sure if it might end up being annoying in the roller though.

I looked at not using the boxes but I found you needed to use more white space to compensate, so it ended up about the same height.  If it "modernises" the page then happy to do it for the sake of that, though I'm not sure why a border isn't considered modern (but really, what do I know?!).


In reply to Starchaser (msg # 499):

There's a few spots that page numbers are wrong or poorly formatted but I hadn't picked that one, thanks.  Fixed.

Small update on.  Fixed a few bugs I found.

Also made a teensy tiny change to the compose screen when replying to a public thread or reply all to a private.  Alas it does rely on javascript but most do have it enabled.  See if you can spot it (and let me know what you think).  (c;

That effect is pretty fancy.

*squeeeeeeeeee*

Normal reading order! Yaaaaaaaay!

(and a good clue for when I screw up and fail to hit the proper 'Reply' option, too!)

Thanks Jase =)

Well... it's more than a pretty effect and reading order.  (c;

Posting a reply will now open the compose screen at the bottom of the current page.  Instant reply window and the current page in its entirety is available to you.

Being me I've now gone one further.

Hitting the quote or reply links on an individual message will now append that quote/reply at the bottom of your current compose screen.  This no longer needs a new page to load plus you can do 5 quotes and 5 replies for a single message.  But not 6, because that would be silly!

Those watching closely will notice a slight delay when pressing quote, that's because it's got to retrieve the post text from the server again to prune out any unwanted text (private lines, edit comments etc).

Not sure how much either are used but I hope it makes life easier and faster for everyone.  You can return to the old behaviour by right-clicking on any of the links and opening in a new tab.

I do this quiet a bit, include more than one quote in a single post, I mean.  Sometimes I'll have an NPC that is responding to a few different PCs and it's nice to call attention to what they are answering.  The old way involved a fair bit of copy/paste and manually creating the [quote] tags ... this is much easier.

 

Seconded.

Would it be possible to have that quote button look for highlighted text, and only quote that part?

Unfortunately not, as mentioned the system has to retrieve the saved message from the server.  The source can be very different to what you're seeing (or what others should be seeing).  Tables, grids, colouring, private lines, secret lines, languages, lists, images... the list goes on.

If it was done that way then you'd lose all formatting (tables and lists would become a mass of text) and all private, secret and language lines would be included as you see them.

Best option, keeping those issues in mind is to go to the message, copy the text, hit quote and then replace with your clipboard.

Suspected as much. Having the older messages visible will facilitate that, so it's good.