It has occurred to me that since this group is getting revived for 2018 that I should probably start a new OOC topic for it.  Sorry for being so slow about it.  I keep hoping that I'm not the only one responsible for maintaining this Community.  But since no one else has acted, I guess I have to.

That I can't figure out how to give GM priveldges to someone else.

Okay then.  For the past couple of days I have been thinking of a running a game where the story is kind of based on Samurai 7.  Except instead of bandits it's the Empire, and instead of samurai it's Rebels.  So I would start out the 7 heroes solo so they can begin on their own personal journeys of rebellion.  And just because it's a Community game, I'd be happy to take on anyone's characters they would like to revive as Rebels.  I take it then that means starting level would be 3rd or 4th?  I'm fine with that.

When Disney bought Lucas Films, I was discussing with many friends how Disney could make money on Star Wars films forever. One of the ways I suggested they could is by tapping into the different genres of movies(as they have with a War Movie, and now a Heist Movie). One of the things I brought up as an example was a Seven Samurai. It's a setting that would be excellent for a Star Wars story.

When Disney bought Lucas Films, I was discussing with many friends how Disney could make money on Star Wars films forever. One of the ways I suggested they could is by tapping into the different genres of movies(as they have with a War Movie, and now a Heist Movie). One of the things I brought up as an example was a Seven Samurai. It's a setting that would be excellent for a Star Wars story.

It's a funny cyclical coincidence there.  One of Lucas' inspirations for Star Wars and Jedi were the Kurosawa films.  So it only makes sense then that some of those Kurosawa films should be adapted to the Star Wars Universe.

There have actually been at least two official adaptations of Seven Samurai already: the Kid and Quixotic Jedi templates from way back in WEG D6 were directly adapted from a Star Wars comic from before Empire Strikes Back came out, and then Clone Wars did a Seven Samurai episode. It was really good.

Star Wars is such a big and complicated franchise that it is difficult launching new products and make everybody happy. On one end you need to be mainstream to reach the vastest possible public, and on the other end you need to keep the unber-geek appeal high as well...

Difficult?  I'd say impossible.  You can never please all of the people all of the time.  You can only go one way or the other.  So naturally, Disney being Disney, they've chosen to try to reach the vastest possible public.  Hence why all these "Star Wars Stories" aren't really "Star Warsy" at all. They are just trying to mimic other genres of movies but set them in the Star Wars Universe.  First Rogue One was a War Movie that felt a lot like Guns of Navarone to me.  Then Solo goes Heist Movie that felt like any train robbery film complete with double-cross at the end.

That all being said, I am expecting one of these Star Wars Stories to be a Romantic Comedy.  Well you really can't do The Courtship of Princess Leia as a movie without Carrie Fisher.  So I was thinking it would be funny if the Boba Fett Movie turned out to be a RomCom.  Why does Boba Fett have that long braid of hair on his armor?  Did he love a woman once and then she died?  Was that Aurra Sing's hair?

I would like to offer my heartfelt congratulations to Peace, as his Tatooine Manhunt campaign recently passed the 8,000 posts milestone.
Well done! These things do not happen by chance!

That's very hard to pull off, well done!

By (very) far the biggest game of Star Wars Saga Edition on RPoL, whether active or inactive!!!

Huh. I never knew and I played there since the beginning! It's a great game.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:58, Sat 08 Sept 2018.

Thanks for the accolade. Any game is more than just a GM, its a team effort with all the players in equal parts.

The game has 2 original players and 3 original characters so an awesome effort by all. I'm happy that the players enjoy it.

By my estimation the game is coming up to it's 7 year anniversary.

Congratulations again!

I have come across a new thing in Star Wars gaming!  New rules!  Yay!  Ones you don't have to pay an arm and a leg for!  And best of all, you probably already know most of the rules!  Take a gander and tell me what you think.  I think they're worth at least a play test.

Link to Reddit - Scroll to Bottom for Downloads
This message was last edited by the GM at 16:05, Thu 04 Oct 2018.

I'm actually going to be in a one-shot of that tomorrow. Hoping it works out all nice. So far it's gotten me thinking about looking for a Star Wars Saga GM, though I imagine that's more nostalgia than a dig on SW5e. :P

There's a Discord server and everything. The guy in charge of it all is pretty nice, and around more often than not. It's a good little community.

A cursory look at the book gives me a good impression!  I just don’t think I’d find anyone running it very easily.

In reply to PC RedFoxMagi (msg # 16):

I was thinking of running it as a play test.  But that is if the response to a cursory examination is all positive.

If I'll move away from SWSE, I think I will go to something much easier to run, perhaps a d6 system, or Fate, or Stellar Adventures, or something like that.
I'm definitely clunky when mass fightings start and perhaps simpler system would help... :(
On the other hand, with a D&D5 system you should find more players...

In reply to GM Samurai Kato (msg # 17):

Let me know!  I'd like to have some experience with it before I run anything.  5E is usually pretty easy to pick up and play, which is a good advantage with some people I know that don't like the more crunchy systems.

In reply to PC Yaztromo (msg # 18):

Yeah... more players... Great...  :-|  Finding enough players for Saga Edition was never a problem for me.  Finding players who would stick around?  Now that's a problem in any game system.  But yeah, I'm sure it would get more new players when you hand them a simple game system that they're already familiar with, and tell them that all the books that are available are free off of Reddit.

In reply to GM Samurai Kato (msg # 20):

I understand you... I found out that Star Wars players are on average a bit more "difficult" than other rulesets players WRT staying in a game. There are quite a lot out there, but my impression is that the franchise is so charged with emotions, dreams and expectations (of course slightly different from player to player), that it is perhaps easier to have a game out of the expectations of a specific player.
Other rulesets that are perhaps less loaded emotionally (or have less detail in the setting?) often have players happier to play along and explore the world as it is presented.

Did you have the same impression, running games in different worlds and with different rulesets?

How dare you call Star Wars fans too "charged with emotions, dreams, and expectations"?  It's not like a large number of Star Wars fans would boycott the franchise based solely on being very unhappy with one movie!  Oh, wait... Never mind.  Point well taken.  Perhaps then Star Was players have a strong tendency to boycott a game based on not liking the way the story is going?  And here I always thought that they were a bunch of ego-maniacs who constantly want their characters to be the center of attention.  That would explain why my longest running games tended to be solo games.  Though still more failed than lasted because the player disappeared without warning.

My experience in running games (and I'm talking in real life, not online) is really weird.  My players always wanted to explore the world as I presented it.  They did not want to follow the published material.  Grayhawk, Forgotten Realms, Spelljammer... it didn't matter the game world, they wanted nothing to do with the published material.  World of Darkness they particularly wanted my own fantasy take on it instead of the dark world as is presented.  And New World of Darkness they rage quit on.  I think the only game world they really liked was Legend of the 5 Rings.  That was until they had to decide the best course of action based solely on the Code of Bushido.  Then they messed up, got killed, and got mad at me for it.  Torg they also found interesting but that's not one game world but rather nine all on one earth.  Shadowrun they liked to.

The most important thing to how much they enjoyed a game was that their characters were the center of their own little universe, not ancillary to the events of the world.  Their most fatal flaw, I would say, was that if there were to be set events in the world then they would want to keep them from happening.  If I said, "It's Fate.  Trying to change Fate only gets you in trouble.  The best thing you can do is just roll with Fate and survive it." then they would get mad.

Of course, what was weird about this group of players was A) There were a lot of them.  Something like a dozen floating in and out of games depending on what night of the week it was and what game system was being run.  B) Almost all of them were GMs.  So if a game ended, it was usually because someone said they really wanted to run a game on that night.  In effect then everyone wanted to run the game, and they did so by having their characters do stuff.  They were not ones to just go along with events or allow themselves to be railroaded.  So running modules was right out.  I suspect none of them today play Adventure League.

A little celebration as Living Force: Cularin (link to another game) passed the 1,000 posts mark ;)

Woohoo! Congratulations to you and your players! :D

Happy New Year, Ladies and Gentlemen!