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[OTHER]Star Wars Rants.

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PC moonstonespider
player, 36 posts
Thu 27 Nov 2008
at 17:17
  • msg #73

Re: Star Wars Rants

More seriously I finally got a chance to see Clone Wars at the dollar theatre.

I'm distressed to note that Ob-Wan is now a war criminal and liable for the death penalty for his violation of the Geneva Conventions.
PC praguepride
player, 136 posts
Asker of Questions
Finder of Answers
Thu 19 Feb 2009
at 00:31
  • msg #74

Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Seriously Lucas, WTF. You have tons of great worlds to choose from, and where does Palpy come from? Some backwater world without any real power or influence. They have all those nice Core worlds to choose from and instead they have the ultimate evil arise from a H&G magazine cover.
PC BadCatMan
player, 33 posts
Only Imperial Storm
Troopers are so precise.
Thu 2 Apr 2009
at 01:26
  • msg #75

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Is anyone else really annoyed at this statement from Wookieepedia?
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

"After reviewing George Lucas' statements on Star Wars canon, the consensus of the Wookieepedia administrators is to only accept the Star Wars films as canon. Expanded Universe material will be treated as non-canon from here on. We will be updating the site accordingly over the next few weeks."

The vast majority of the information on that site is now declared non-canon, and has to be rearranged and specially marked so, when it's just pointless. And George Lucas has got to be the only guy in the world who cares about George Lucas canon anyway.

(Still better than Doctor Who canon.)
PC rallenc82
player, 86 posts
Thu 2 Apr 2009
at 03:27
  • msg #76

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Dude, it's an april fools joke.
PC BadCatMan
player, 34 posts
Only Imperial Storm
Troopers are so precise.
Thu 2 Apr 2009
at 03:35
  • msg #77

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

... Oh.

Well, that gets me back for the RoA joke. :o

Thanks to the internet, April Fools has extended to a full 48 hours.
This message was last edited by the player at 03:39, Thu 02 Apr 2009.
PC jmkool
player, 75 posts
Fri 3 Apr 2009
at 15:45
  • msg #78

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Wow, BCM.  Considering the time us folks spend on the net, how can you not have noticed it was April Fools day?  Just about everybody does something for it.  Especially RPoL...
PC BadCatMan
player, 35 posts
Only Imperial Storm
Troopers are so precise.
Fri 3 Apr 2009
at 15:54
  • msg #79

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Oh, I knew. See RoA for details. ;)

But it was 2nd April for me when I noticed Wookieepedia. Time zones. It's an easy mistake to make. :p
PC praguepride
player, 165 posts
Asker of Questions
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Fri 3 Apr 2009
at 17:44
  • msg #80

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

March 31 - April 2nd is my "April Fools Caution" window.
GM Palpatine
GM, 194 posts
Never listens to the
Order 66 Podcast
Fri 3 Apr 2009
at 21:46
  • msg #81

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Not much of a rant, I'll admit, but I really want to have more episodes of Clone Wars, and I want them now!  :p  I also want to see a lot more of Cad Bane, one of the coolest bounty hunters in the Old Republic.  Combined with Admiral Gar Stazi of Legacy-fame, it's almost enough to make me want to play a Duros.  Almost.  :p
PC rallenc82
player, 87 posts
Sat 18 Apr 2009
at 11:36
  • msg #82

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Is it just me or does the Star Wars (WotC) website blow? They hardly ever update the thing lately. They don't do Jedi Counseling any more than once every six months or so it seems. When they do updates, there are usually glaring errors to their main page that are frankly confusing at times.

Edit: And lately, they haven't even been putting out excerpts for upcoming books until the book is already out on the shelves! how are people supposed to know what the hell the book is like and go out and buy it in the first week if you won't even put something up until after the things already out?
This message was last edited by the player at 11:37, Sat 18 Apr 2009.
PC Ryvaken
player, 4 posts
Sat 18 Apr 2009
at 13:13
  • msg #83

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

And if they do update it tends to be miniatures.
GM Sunset Miko
GM, 124 posts
So sue me, I LIKE
gungans!
Sat 18 Apr 2009
at 18:00
  • msg #84

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

I heard that Wizards is having some financial problems, actually. Coulds be that they had to 'let go' some of their webbies.
PC Krib
player, 10 posts
Char ideas on description
Looking for a game
Sat 18 Apr 2009
at 18:26
  • msg #85

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

very possible.

The rumor mill says they have been coming down hard on file sharing sites that have allowed sharing the pdf's of their books.

But I recently bought 3 Saga books so I have been doing my share of keeping them afloat.
GM Palpatine
GM, 197 posts
Never listens to the
Order 66 Podcast
Sat 18 Apr 2009
at 20:26
  • msg #86

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

I can see your argument about the quality of some of the updates on the WotC site, but let's face it...  they don't need to give us free stuff like Web Enhancements, Bounty Postings, Behind the Threat articles, or even a free series of adventures in Dawn of Defiance - yet all these things does cost Wizards money to produce.  So, with that in mind, I don't think we have the right to expect very much from them, nor to be dissapointed when we don't like what they do publish for free.  I know some disagree with this, but when someone is offering you something for free, I feel like it's in poor form to get on to them for not giving you the free thing you happened to want, or get upset at the quality of the free thing given to you.  Also keep in mind that there is only one game designer/developer working on the Star Wars line - everyone else contributing are freelancers, all with other full-time jobs and everything (Sterling Hershey, for example, works full-time as an architect, his work on Saga is done on his off-time from that).

Sure, it would be cool to get more frequent updates to the website - but, let's face it, compared to D&D, Star Wars is just not that important to Wizards, nor does it make them even close to the money that D&D does.  As it is, we're lucky that the Star Wars line shows no signs of stopping, because financially, it's not one of the highlights for Wizards.

And, hey, here's a preview for the upcoming Jedi Academy book, which isn't released for a whole month yet:
http://www.wizards.com/default...diAcademyrpgpreview1
PC rallenc82
player, 88 posts
Sat 18 Apr 2009
at 22:29
  • msg #87

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

If they are going to do something, they shouldn't half-ass it, is what I mean.
GM Palpatine
GM, 200 posts
Never listens to the
Order 66 Podcast
Sat 18 Apr 2009
at 23:01
  • msg #88

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

So, are you saying that they should either put out a steady stream of articles, or just take down the website entirely, rather than 'half-assing' it by only releasing freebies occationaly?  Or that they shouldn't publish any articles short of awesome, rather than 'half-assing' it and giving us some things that might be said to be mediocre, or just not what every GM or player out there wants?  If it's not either of those two, I'm not sure just what it is you mean or what you want, and if it is either of those two, I (obviously) disagree.

And, I also don't think that what has been offered up is all that bad, really.  Sure, the minis previews might not appeal to the roleplayers, but guess what?  There are people out there who love the minis game, but who have never (and will never) play the roleplaying game - those guys deserve to be thrown a bone every once in a while, too.  Errata is usually published soon after new books are released, and has even been updated to include rules clarifications in the case of the core rulebook.  There's the (frankly, awesome) Dawn of Defiance campaign, which they could have easily decided to charge money for, but are releasing for free.  No, we haven't gotten many Jedi Counsellings lately (due in part to G.M. Sarli being sick/having health problems lately, IIRC), but do we really need them?  I mean, we have the main game developer appearing on a fan-produced podcast every few months, frequently taking time to take questions from the listeners about all sorts of rules-related issues they might have.

And then there are other things, like Creatures of KotOR (not web-enhancements or cut content, but additional content developed because certain GMs want more beasts published), the really good Bounty Postings articles, things like Behind the Threat: The Sith (which is a great resource for any campaign in which the Sith will be an active element), Power Beyond Belief, Star Wars: The Musical Experience for GMs who would like to include music in their games...  and I could keep going on, but I don't think there's a point in that.  In my opinion, most of the web-articles published by Wizards have been of surprisingly high quality for being free material, and even when it's something I won't be using myself (say, some of the statblocks given in KotOR web-enhancements), I can easily take the material and use it in another way (by cutting out the name from the statblock and using them for someone else, saving me the trouble of making a statblock of my own).  And, as mentioned before, I don't think we as fans have any right to complain about there not being frequent enough updates online, as long as we're not paying for them (it'd be a completely different story if we were talking about D&D Insider articles not appearing on time, because I'm actually paying a monthly fee to pay Wizards to produce those on time).
PC praguepride
player, 168 posts
Asker of Questions
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Tue 21 Apr 2009
at 21:46
  • msg #89

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

PC Krib:
The rumor mill says they have been coming down hard on file sharing sites that have allowed sharing the pdf's of their books.


I feel bad when I pirate good books :(

However, I would never buy most of the books I pirate. I just don't have the money to invest in it anymore. I try and buy them when I can, especially the really high quality books (Scum & Villainy I've got in hard copy) but for me the choice is either

Don't play vs. Play with pirated books.

I know it's still wrong, but here's the way I look at it. If there was no pirating at all, I wouldn't be running D&D/Star Wars/nWoD games AT ALL.

However, because I pirated some books and started up campaigns I've spent a lot of time looking at them and BECAUSE I pirated books and getting involved, I did end up going out and purchasing books that I would normally have never needed (specifically W:tR, H:tV, and Scum & Villainy). So is it wrong: yes. Did this act slightly increase WoTC/White Wolf book sales....marginally yes. Overall they're at a net profit....

I guess the conclusion is that I've never NOT bought a book because I could pirate it. I've NOT bought books because I can't afford them. HOWEVER I HAVE bought books when I can afford them that I wouldn't have bought if I wasn't already immersed into the game world via pirated books.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:47, Tue 21 Apr 2009.
GM Sunset Miko
GM, 126 posts
So sue me, I LIKE
gungans!
Wed 22 Apr 2009
at 03:55
  • msg #90

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

I practice Ethical Pirating. I only download books I have other means of getting access to - normally involving borrowing them off my parentally rich younger brother, but still. He buys them.
GM Vibetrippin
GM, 33 posts
Wed 22 Apr 2009
at 13:44
  • msg #91

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

GM Sunset Miko:
I practice Ethical Pirating. I only download books I have other means of getting access to - normally involving borrowing them off my parentally rich younger brother, but still. He buys them.


Books need to come with a digital copy. The same way that you get a copy when you buy a DVD these days. Ah to have my entire library at my fingertips via my PDA...
GM Palpatine
GM, 203 posts
Never listens to the
Order 66 Podcast
Wed 22 Apr 2009
at 15:34
  • msg #92

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

I follow a very loose ethical code of my own when it comes to pirating, which goes something like this:  If I can't realistically buy it without incurring tremendous costs (like, say, shipping from across the Atlantic), or if I wouldn't have paid money for it without giving it a try first anyway (read: most D&D books, including most of 4E), or if I'm going to buy it anyway as soon as possible (read: anything SWSE - I have a copy of every product to date, and that's likely to continue :p), then I'll download it.  And, if it's good enough to impress me - I'm buying it.  That's how I got started with Saga in the first place, and why I own four 4E D&D books and one adventure module - so, clearly, Wizards is making money on my pirating, as long as they keep releasing good products.  :p
PC praguepride
player, 169 posts
Asker of Questions
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Thu 23 Apr 2009
at 03:07
  • msg #93

Re: Wait...The Evil Incarnate Emperor is from where!?

Yarrr, all this pirate talk makes me want to play a pirate game...yarrr!

My fiancee bought me this t-shirt: http://www.snorgtees.com/pirateencyclopedia-p-353.html
PC moonstonespider
player, 55 posts
Thu 20 Aug 2009
at 23:38
  • msg #94

Legacy . . .

So, just got a chance to finally read Legacy (Not Legacy of the Force, the comic book that takes place a hundred years after that).

And it's mostly good except for one thing that's key to the whole issue that has me wondering what flavor of crack the writers are on.  Healing is a dark side power and the main character is exposed to the darkside by saving the lives of badly wounded people.  WTF?
GM Sunset Miko
GM, 130 posts
So sue me, I LIKE
gungans!
Fri 21 Aug 2009
at 00:38
  • msg #95

Re: Legacy . . .

Raargh. Dark Healing deals Condition Track Damage to the Healer, and heals based on the Healer's level, and gives you a DSP... unlike Vital Transfer, which deals Hit Point damage to the Healer, and heals based on the target's level, and doesn't get rid of a DSP.

Only with Dark Healing, you can break the natural laws of the universe and bring people back to life!

As long as you have at least two levels in a force-using prestige class.
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:39, Fri 21 Aug 2009.
PC Angelalex242
player, 2 posts
Mon 12 Dec 2011
at 04:43
  • msg #96

Re: Legacy . . .

Speaking of rants...

Has anyone actually noticed Ben Skywalker doing domestic abuse to his erstwhile girlfriend Vestara?

He'd totally have picked up some Dark Side points for invading her privacy and slapping her around in my game...
PC praguepride
player, 187 posts
Asker of Questions
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Mon 23 Apr 2012
at 15:54
  • msg #97

Re: Legacy . . .

The issue isn't so much that Cade can heal people, it's because he's bringing them back from the dead.

Healing is a light side power, but diverting the course of the force, by disrupting the natural cycle of life you're imposing your own will upon the universe which is a decidely dark side thing to do.
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