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OOC Thread - 17.

Posted by FusilierFor group 0
Jose Rodriguez
player, 146 posts
Spec 4 (US) Infantry
Heffe
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 07:14
  • msg #963

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Good to know that the 40mmN don’t seem to be in common use by the party anymore - I was hesitant to ask to draw so many of the remaining grenades, and even with those reloads, that MM-1 can go through them like a beast (3 per turn I think?). Even with all of the reloads taken from the stores, that might not be enough for more than another mission or two, so we may as well try to build stock in them while we can.

Otherwise if Jose ends up with the SM-2 or CG, we can either just shift the MM-1 into stores or someone else can take a crack at it.
Jan Czerny
player, 277 posts
Sergent-Chef FFL
Mahatatain
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 08:19
  • msg #964

Re: OOC Thread - 17

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 963):

When Cymon is back he can confirm whether he is still using 40mmN grenades as well.

There are other options for Jose though:

 - We could get him a 40mmS launcher of some kind.
 - He could carry one of the RPG-7s as it's lighter than the CG. We have 3 rockets for it and could trade for more.



Updated list:

From the market:
Gun oil
7.62mmL loose rounds
7.62mmS 30rnd mags
5.45mmB 40rnd or 45rnd mags
9mmP rounds
9mmM rounds

From the arms dealer contact:
Smoke grenades
7.62mmL belted ammo for a PK
40mmS grenades
40mmN grenades

Items to trade:
57mm HE-T shells x3
Civilian CB WalkieTalkie x1
Eyeglasses x1
Paraffin Wax (125g block) x1
Jan Czerny
player, 278 posts
Sergent-Chef FFL
Mahatatain
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 08:24
  • msg #965

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Fusilier:
The SM-2 Koncerz.
...the PIAT-like weapon.

Fuse,

Do you have a link to information on this weapon? I've tried to Google it but have failed to find anything useful.

I think that it's a surface to air missile launcher but can it be fired effectively at ground targets?

Ta,

Andy.
Jan Czerny
player, 279 posts
Sergent-Chef FFL
Mahatatain
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 11:01
  • msg #966

Re: OOC Thread - 17

One thing to add to the list of things to do:

 - Mount the AGS-17 on the new Humvee
Fusilier
GM, 6552 posts
Your Guide
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 11:11
  • msg #967

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Jose Rodriguez:
Would the SM-2 be considered a Grenade Launcher or a Tac Missile when it comes to skill usage? If it’s PIAT-like, I would think more GL?


Grenade Launcher.

Jan Czerny:
Do you have a link to information on this weapon? I've tried to Google it but have failed to find anything useful.

I think that it's a surface to air missile launcher but can it be fired effectively at ground targets?


Definitely not a missile launcher. It's a local design meant to shorten the gap between the enemy's abundance in armor and Gdansk's ability to deal with that. It's similar in some ways to the PIAT. It launches a 66mm shaped charge via spring action. Disadvantage is low range, so you have to get close. Advantages are it has very little report (it's stealthy) and no backblast, so it's ideal for urban/night ambushes. Cheap and easy to produce. It's crude.

Chapter 17
Messages: 323 / 334 / 339
Provide descriptions of the weapon. Incidentally, I'd recommend reading those posts to get an idea of your arrangement with Sikora Armaments, your arms supplier.


Lastly, the AGS uses a different mount than what's available on the Humvee (east vs west) so you'll need an adapter. That probably means hiring someone (at the Solidarity market most likely) to do it.
This message was last edited by the GM at 11:13, Fri 11 Jan 2019.
Jan Czerny
player, 280 posts
Sergent-Chef FFL
Mahatatain
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 11:16
  • msg #968

Re: OOC Thread - 17

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 967):

Thanks for the info. The Solidarity market is the MU controlled one isn't it?

Ta,

Andy
Fusilier
GM, 6553 posts
Your Guide
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 11:19
  • msg #969

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Also, Andy, add that map and civies to your sheet.

For everyone else, for any exchanges with the stores please address those changes in your posts addressed to me and set apart from any other text. And ensure I acknowledge it. Thanks.





Re: Solidarity Market, yes, technically.

Sikora are also members of the cartels, but as you might have seen they aiding you both overtly through bulk sales and covertly by sending the LoSA supplies.
William Schmidt
player, 76 posts
CPO Boatswain (RN)
Akulaau
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 13:02
  • msg #970

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Schmidt is a machinist as well as a mechanic, I think he can probably knock up something to mount the AGS17 for the Hummer.
Jan Czerny
player, 281 posts
Sergent-Chef FFL
Mahatatain
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 13:48
  • msg #971

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Fuse,

Please note that I've amended Jan's last IC post as I mistakenly duplicated something Ferro was about to do.

My apologies for this.

Ta,

Andy
Henry 'Hank' Voight
player, 160 posts
PMC /Call Sign: Devil Dog
Corkman
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 18:19
  • msg #972

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Fusilier:
Also, Andy, add that map and civies to your sheet.

For everyone else, for any exchanges with the stores please address those changes in your posts addressed to me and set apart from any other text. And ensure I acknowledge it. Thanks.

Fuse,
Please add to the group inventory [1] Polish P-64 pistol, holster, and [2] empty 6 round magazines for it.  If someone needs a sidearm, please feel free.  It just needs ammo.

Also, please add [1] AK-74 magazine of 5.45B, [30] rounds & subtract [155] rounds 7.62S, and [10] rounds 9mmP
This message was last edited by the player at 18:29, Fri 11 Jan 2019.
Jose Rodriguez
player, 147 posts
Spec 4 (US) Infantry
Heffe
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 18:23
  • msg #973

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Fuse, please deduct 76 x 7.62mmS from the stores.
Henry 'Hank' Voight
player, 161 posts
PMC /Call Sign: Devil Dog
Corkman
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 18:32
  • msg #974

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Re: Ch.18 Gdansk

He missed Mariusz' cooking sometimes
====================================
So does Tucker...
Jose Rodriguez
player, 148 posts
Spec 4 (US) Infantry
Heffe
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 21:59
  • msg #975

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Fuse, is it possible to request some additional stats on the SM-2 Koncerz? Range and penetration would be helpful if you're okay providing it (as it seems to be an entirely custom built weapon), but if not, at least the weight of the system and reloads would be great. Jose would definitely have an interest in wielding that thing assuming he's strong enough to actually carry it, and that the other party members would be okay with it as well.
Varis Babicevs
player, 1706 posts
Sgt (Latvia)
Raellus
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 22:04
  • msg #976

Re: OOC Thread - 17

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 975):

You're welcome to it. I don't think anyone else wants to lug it around! ;)

-
Jose Rodriguez
player, 149 posts
Spec 4 (US) Infantry
Heffe
Fri 11 Jan 2019
at 22:17
  • msg #977

Re: OOC Thread - 17

In reply to Varis Babicevs (msg # 976):

Lol that's why I'm curious to know how much that thing weighs! Too heavy and it might be a nonstarter. But if that last battle taught us anything, some more dedicated anti-tank support will come in handy.
Fusilier
GM, 6554 posts
Your Guide
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 00:35
  • msg #978

Re: OOC Thread - 17

In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 972):
Done

In reply to Jose Rodriguez (msg # 973):
Done

Jose Rodriguez:
Fuse, is it possible to request some additional stats on the SM-2 Koncerz? Range and penetration would be helpful if you're okay providing it (as it seems to be an entirely custom built weapon), but if not, at least the weight of the system and reloads would be great. Jose would definitely have an interest in wielding that thing assuming he's strong enough to actually carry it, and that the other party members would be okay with it as well.


I can't really provide stats for you because your PC doesn't know anything about it, so you can't either. The maximum range is said to be 60m and the maximum effective range is 40m. The range is the weapon's main disadvantage. It's an intermediary between RPG-7s and AT grenade/mines/molotovs. SM-2 weight is 8.5kg.

The Carl Gustav is by FAR superior for range and certainly in penetration as well. The downside to the CG though is once you fire it everyone knows where you are and that it's fairly heavy (and the ammo bulky). Really it's a 2 man portable cannon.

So you have pros and cons to weigh.
Jose Rodriguez
player, 150 posts
Spec 4 (US) Infantry
Heffe
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 00:47
  • msg #979

Re: OOC Thread - 17

That’s totally fair, I’m not sure I was expecting to hear pen and range. The weight is helpful, and I can see some value for the weapon depending on mission profile. Do we know what the weight of the reloads are?
Fusilier
GM, 6555 posts
Your Guide
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 01:00
  • msg #980

Re: OOC Thread - 17

1.5kg for anti-armor shaped charge
2.0kg for basic high explosive

HE has less PEN but larger fragmentation and concussion effect.
Henry 'Hank' Voight
player, 162 posts
PMC /Call Sign: Devil Dog
Corkman
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 03:46
  • msg #981

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Fusilier:
In reply to Henry 'Hank' Voight (msg # 972):
Done

Thank you sir!

Would the briefing that the Major & Kessler are having be able to be attended by Hank or is this during his walk with Per?
Jose Rodriguez
player, 151 posts
Spec 4 (US) Infantry
Heffe
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 04:16
  • msg #982

Re: OOC Thread - 17

In reply to Fusilier (msg # 980):

Thank you! That’s all good to know.
Gerhard Dietrich
player, 120 posts
Polizeioberkommissar
Chalkline
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 11:07
  • msg #983

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Just to be clear, we're about to do the briefing?
Michael Kessler
player, 1405 posts
Hauptmann (Ger)
Dave Ross
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 11:12
  • msg #984

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Fuse, I've replied to Jose / Hank but I made a new post rather than use the placeholder otherwise Kessler would have been answering Voight's question before he asked it.

I think it might be better to shift the briefing to the morning of the 3rd in case there are any follow up questions (I don't think there's anything time specific in any of the posts).

Also, to be clear re: Voight's question about intel agencies, as a player I'm not trying to mislead other players - there is a connection between Kessler / Janku and (West) German Intelligence but that is very much compartmentalised info, so I hope you'll understand Kessler not sharing that with your PC's at this stage.
Gerhard Dietrich
player, 121 posts
Polizeioberkommissar
Chalkline
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 11:20
  • msg #985

Re: OOC Thread - 17

To add to my last post, I'm not sure who is present at this briefing
Fusilier
GM, 6558 posts
Your Guide
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 16:56
  • msg #986

Re: OOC Thread - 17

In reply to Michael Kessler (msg # 984):

Sounds good. I'll edit the turn to move the briefing to the morning later tonight. Assume it for the time being.

Dietrich, all are present.




@all if your posts are not set in the present time (in this case the morning) please make a note of that in your turn. Otherwise you're in two places at once and it's difficult to follow.
Fusilier
GM, 6559 posts
Your Guide
Sat 12 Jan 2019
at 17:33
  • msg #987

Re: OOC Thread - 17

Re: Kessler's vignette

For the new people, I'm not sure if it has been mentioned but there is an enemy PW locked up in the compund.
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