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OOC Thread 3.

Posted by FusilierFor group 0
Krzysztof Kaminski
player, 134 posts
Many fingers in many pies
and none of them legal...
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 09:22
  • msg #963

Re: Stores

re: Otto, its more of a RP decision as well as a practical decision. I don't know his skill but given that all he does is:

1. Drive
2. Break Bones
3. Shoot the RPD
4. Grunt

I think he'd suit that position well.

This also means that the whole BTR can speak Polish
This message was last edited by the player at 09:24, Sat 28 Nov 2009.
Ben Jagelis
player, 907 posts
Canadian Lieutenant
Airborne Infantry
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 10:19
  • msg #964

Re: Stores

According to George's entry in "the cast" thread, he's one of the most fluent with Polish in the unit - probably speaks it even better than Kaminski...

;)
Mike Catchings
player, 36 posts
HM3
Navy FMF Corpsman (US)
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 10:29
  • msg #965

Re: Stores

Are we going to take this opportunity to let the rest of the characters get some sleep?  Without inserting myself too far into the administrative slot, I think we all could get a decent nights sleep in with just a one or two person watch. Mike will volunteer to take like an 04-05ish one if needed, as I want to clean and rebandage all the wounded from the previous engagement first thing in the morning. if we are under attack that early, I'll do them anyway (assuming its safe) as from my understanding all the wounded are staying behind.

For the M203, I have no preference on who the refresher is from.
This message was last edited by the player at 10:32, Sat 28 Nov 2009.
Ben Jagelis
player, 908 posts
Canadian Lieutenant
Airborne Infantry
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 10:38
  • msg #966

Re: Stores

In reply to Mike Catchings (msg #965):

Ben suggested Handley do it as he has the best GL / Instruction skill combination. There's better with a GL, but their Instruction sucks if it exists at all.

Sleep is certainly something we need to have. The ideal is to have everyone at zero fatigue by the commencement of operations.
We also need to shoehorn some rehersals into our available time - weapons training, action on contact, even how to get in and out of the vehicles and in which order.

There's also a bit of a stores reshuffle as has been previously indicated, but it shouldn't take long. Did you know we now have over five tonnes of stores not including the still!  :O
Robert Mitchell
player, 132 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 12:38
  • msg #967

Re: Stores

A couple of things about the various firearms assignments.

1. I thought an M4 carbine could have a M203 grenade launcher attached to it?

2. It might be better to give Fox the M240 as a dismount MG rather than the M60 because of the worn state of the M60.

3. 7.62mmN belts:

Ben Jagelis:
"Transfer the M60 over to the M113 along with all the belts the Bradley doesn't need."


There are four 7.62mmN belts in the HUMVEE - I suggest two each for the Bradley and the M113 giving us 6 per vehicle.

4. Should I add the RPG-7 to Mitch's character sheet and how many rounds has he been given for it?

5. Does anyone know the layout of an M113?  If Mitch is in the commander/gunner position is he standing or sitting?  Also how big is the cupola?  Will he have the RPG-7 inside the vehicle to pull out if necessary or should it be strapped on the top, outside of the vehicle?  I just want to ensure that I describe things correctly should they become relevant!  I have found the following however: http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/cv/inf/M113.html
Robert Mitchell
player, 133 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 12:41
  • msg #968

Re: Stores

Fusilier:
FORMER UNIT MEMBERS

Ethan Creswick (UK) - KIA (Near Blotnik, Poland, July 28, 2000)
Jennifer Gideon (UK) - KIA (Wislinka, Poland, July 29, 2000)
Jan Krejcik (Czech) - KIA (Wislinka, Poland, July 29, 2000)
Erich Hawkins (US) - KIA (Wislinka, Poland, July 29, 2000)
Tom P. Kelly (US) - DIED (Wislinka, Poland, July 30, 2000)
William Hicks (US) - MIA/Deserted (Wislinka, Poland, July 30, 2000)


That’s quite a casualty rate!  Mind you it seems that no one has died for the last two days! <G>
Ben Jagelis
player, 909 posts
Canadian Lieutenant
Airborne Infantry
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 14:06
  • msg #969

Re: Stores

Robert Mitchell:
1. I thought an M4 carbine could have a M203 grenade launcher attached to it?
Yes, but it has a lower effective range and higher felt recoil compared to the full sized weapon.
Robert Mitchell:
2. It might be better to give Fox the M240 as a dismount MG rather than the M60 because of the worn state of the M60.

That's up to Oskar, commander of that section. However, the M240 is one of his "personal" weapons (he brought it to the party on his motorbike).
Originally I had the PKM as the second machinegun, but ammunition commonality is vital, at least as much as we can get it. This is why everyone (excluding Weiss) in the BTR has 5.45 mm or 7.62mmS weapons and I would advise Weiss draw an AK-74 or AK-74U to suplement his M21 sniper rifle in the unlikely event he needs to head out on foot.
Robert Mitchell:
3. 7.62mmN belts:
Ben Jagelis:
"Transfer the M60 over to the M113 along with all the belts the Bradley doesn't need."

There are four 7.62mmN belts in the HUMVEE - I suggest two each for the Bradley and the M113 giving us 6 per vehicle.

That is in addition to the 2130 rounds of belted already loaded aboard the Bradley. Note also that we have a total of 1200 rounds in stores, split between the Bradley, M113 and Humvee all of which should be concentrated with the two MGs (600 each). On reflection, the Bradley already has enough.
Robert Mitchell:
4. Should I add the RPG-7 to Mitch's character sheet and how many rounds has he been given for it?

If it was actually to be carried by him, I'd say yes, but as it's really been assigned to the vehicle instead....
Each RPG-7 has three rounds (what type I don't really know - there's dozens according to Pauls site). If the infantry are aboard, Mitch would be better allowing Oskar to take the shot from the cargo hatch.
Robert Mitchell:
5. Does anyone know the layout of an M113? If Mitch is in the commander/gunner position is he standing or sitting? Also how big is the cupola?  Will he have the RPG-7 inside the vehicle to pull out if necessary or should it be strapped on the top, outside of the vehicle?

Quite well actually - I spend plenty of time in the back of them when I was in the army.
The commander has a seat which can be raised or lowered. He may also elect to stand, although this gets a bit tiring after a while.
The cupola is:


The rest of the vehicle can be see here: http://svsm.org/gallery/M113A3
I would suggest that the RPG and his personal weapon (an M249 I believe) be secured somehow on the outside of the cupola. Hanging from it's shoulderstrap (for the M249) should be sufficient. Having either of those weapons inside is going to be a big problem if he needs them in a hurry.
Robert Mitchell
player, 134 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 16:35
  • msg #970

Re: Stores

Robert Mitchell:
There are four 7.62mmN belts in the HUMVEE - I suggest two each for the Bradley and the M113 giving us 6 per vehicle.

Ben Jagelis:
That is in addition to the 2130 rounds of belted already loaded aboard the Bradley. Note also that we have a total of 1200 rounds in stores, split between the Bradley, M113 and Humvee all of which should be concentrated with the two MGs (600 each). On reflection, the Bradley already has enough.

OK - Fusilier - please can you move the four belts from the HUMVEE to the M113?


Robert Mitchell:
4. Should I add the RPG-7 to Mitch's character sheet and how many rounds has he been given for it?

Ben Jagelis:
If it was actually to be carried by him, I'd say yes, but as it's really been assigned to the vehicle instead....
Each RPG-7 has three rounds (what type I don't really know - there's dozens according to Pauls site). If the infantry are aboard, Mitch would be better allowing Oskar to take the shot from the cargo hatch.

OK - that makes sense - Fusilier - please can you amend the M113 vehicle weapons accordingly?


Robert Mitchell:
5. Does anyone know the layout of an M113? If Mitch is in the commander/gunner position is he standing or sitting? Also how big is the cupola?  Will he have the RPG-7 inside the vehicle to pull out if necessary or should it be strapped on the top, outside of the vehicle?

Ben Jagelis:
The commander has a seat which can be raised or lowered. He may also elect to stand, although this gets a bit tiring after a while.

The rest of the vehicle can be see here: http://svsm.org/gallery/M113A3

Thanks for this - very interesting!


Ben Jagelis:
I would suggest that the RPG and his personal weapon (an M249 I believe) be secured somehow on the outside of the cupola. Hanging from it's shoulderstrap (for the M249) should be sufficient. Having either of those weapons inside is going to be a big problem if he needs them in a hurry.

I think that he'll have the M117 secured somehow on the outside of the cupola rather than the M249 as if he dismounts he'll probably be looking to move fast!
Varis Babicevs
player, 364 posts
Auxiliary
Scout/Translator (US)
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 17:51
  • msg #971

Re: Stores


In urban fighting, the M4 is usually preferable to the full sized M16 due to its handier size. And yes, the M203 can quite easily be fitted to the shorter M4.

Varis will part with some 40mm S grenades if he's confident that Volodya knows how to use the GL. Varis is seriously looking forward to blowing some sh*t up!
Fusilier
GM, 1127 posts
Your Guide
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 18:00
  • msg #972

Re: Stores

Robert Mitchell:
OK - Fusilier - please can you move the four belts from the HUMVEE to the M113? And RPG.


Done.

Mitch, bear in mind there is only a forward mounted gunshield and not the all-around protection rig.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:01, Sat 28 Nov 2009.
Robert Mitchell
player, 135 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Sat 28 Nov 2009
at 18:07
  • msg #973

Re: Stores

Fusilier:
Mitch, bear in mind there is only a forward mounted gunshield and not the all-around protection rig.


Thank you for that wonderful news! <G>
Ben Jagelis
player, 910 posts
Canadian Lieutenant
Airborne Infantry
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 02:09
  • msg #974

Re: Stores

In reply to Fusilier (msg #972):

I thought we'd rigged that up but not shields for the cargo hatch gun?
Might not look the same, but the effect was.
Fusilier
GM, 1128 posts
Your Guide
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 10:26
  • msg #975

Re: Stores

Francis 'Frank' Benucci:
Frank will be taking [84] 5.56N rounds to fill the three other magazines he took from the inventory with [28] rounds apiece like his other ones he carries.  He will also take the [16] HEDP rounds and the [2] ILLUM rounds as well.  Looking for something that will hold the 40mm rounds.


Frank - go ahead with the 5.56mmN but you there are only 14x 40mmHEDP available (and no ILLUM). So please only add 14 HEDP grenades.

Ben Jagelis:
I thought we'd rigged that up but not shields for the cargo hatch gun?Might not look the same, but the effect was.


I can't remember exactly what was said, but I've got it written in notes, and have been playing it out that way in combat as well. Just a forward protection with partial side protection.
This message was last edited by the GM at 10:29, Sun 29 Nov 2009.
Krzysztof Kaminski
player, 138 posts
Many fingers in many pies
and none of them legal...
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 10:55
  • msg #976

Re: Stores

not sure what the stores are like but Kaminski would like to add 2-3 frags and 1 smoke grenade + 3 mags for the AKSU re: post from Varis. Confirm and I'll add it to the sheet.
Ben Jagelis
player, 911 posts
Canadian Lieutenant
Airborne Infantry
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 12:23
  • msg #977

Re: Stores

Kaminski was issued the RPK for use while in the commanders seat and to be fired through the port to his right.
Fusilier
GM, 1129 posts
Your Guide
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 13:49
  • msg #978

Re: Stores

Krzysztof Kaminski:
not sure what the stores are like but Kaminski would like to add 2-3 frags and 1 smoke grenade + 3 mags for the AKSU re: post from Varis. Confirm and I'll add it to the sheet.


I am not sure what you mean.

Do you want to add 2-3 frags and other things to the unit store? Or draw them and put them into your inventory? Or is this from player to player?

I'm thinking you mean from Varis - Kaminski but want to be sure.
Krzysztof Kaminski
player, 139 posts
Many fingers in many pies
and none of them legal...
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 14:25
  • msg #979

Re: Stores

draw from stores, put into inventory.
Fusilier
GM, 1130 posts
Your Guide
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 14:36
  • msg #980

Re: Stores

Krzysztof Kaminski:
draw from stores, put into inventory.


Ok. Well, there are no frags available anymore.
But you can still add 1 smoke grenade + 3x 30round 5.45mmB mags if you want.
Krzysztof Kaminski
player, 140 posts
Many fingers in many pies
and none of them legal...
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 15:06
  • msg #981

Re: Stores

done
Fusilier
GM, 1131 posts
Your Guide
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 15:12
  • msg #982

Re: Stores

Alright everyone, this is the platoon layout for the moment. I'll put up a post tonight or tomorrow for dawn and well go from there. Hopefully everyone has their admin/prep done and for those who are tired of it already - well, we're finally done.


Robert Mitchell
player, 136 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 20:34
  • msg #983

Re: Stores

Can I double check that I'm right about a couple of comms things.

While Mitch is commanding the M113 am I correct that he is "Two Zero" but if he dismounts he becomes "Found Five"?

Also are we on a separate radio net to the IB and our only contact with their net is via Pearce?

Thanks.
Mike Catchings
player, 37 posts
HM3
Navy FMF Corpsman (US)
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 20:49
  • msg #984

Re: Stores

Also, was Gdansk nuked during the war?


Edit: thanks for clarifying
This message was last edited by the player at 01:06, Mon 30 Nov 2009.
Robert Mitchell
player, 137 posts
Corporal
British Infantry
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 20:53
  • msg #985

Re: Stores

Mike Catchings:
Also, was Gdansk nuked during the war?


According to the official game map I believe so though I'm not sure to what "extent".
Varis Babicevs
player, 366 posts
Auxiliary
Scout/Translator (US)
Sun 29 Nov 2009
at 21:08
  • msg #986

Re: Stores


Check out the Intel thread.
Fusilier
GM, 1133 posts
Your Guide
Mon 30 Nov 2009
at 01:30
  • msg #987

Re: Stores

Robert Mitchell:
While Mitch is commanding the M113 am I correct that he is "Two Zero" but if he dismounts he becomes "Found Five"?

Also are we on a separate radio net to the IB and our only contact with their net is via Pearce?


1. Yes, and the dismounts you are carrying are "Two-One".

2. Yes. Completely separate. As are the other militia sub units. Only the everyone's HQ is on the main command post's channel. Otherwise you'd have too many people talking at once from all over the city completely unrelated to each and everyone's situation.

The nuclear detonations were from ("small") tactical devices. Most of the damage is further out to the west and the large part of Gdansk's northwest. Most of the story so far has been kept to what is called the "old city" which was spared most of the damage (and radiation). Thanks Varis.

I'm going to close this OOC thread and start up a new one.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:31, Mon 30 Nov 2009.
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