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Greyhawk Thieves Guild.

Posted by Bannacor
Bannacor
member, 164 posts
Mon 27 Mar 2017
at 23:26
  • msg #1

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

 Would anyone be interested in running a Thief character of mine,in the Free city of Greyhawk? 2nd or 5th edition D&D

 Thank you for your time and attention.
This message was last edited by the user at 23:28, Mon 27 Mar 2017.
Soulforge
member, 95 posts
To be or not to be
is that the only question
Mon 27 Mar 2017
at 23:53
  • msg #2

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

In reply to Bannacor (msg # 1):

I've only run 3rd and 4th and I gave my 3rd ed books to friends long ago.  So I'm not offering to run, just posting to start up a small conversation.

I have not wanted to invest in 5th ED HOWEVER, I do love the Greyhawk setting.

Were you wanting to do a Solo adventure or were you willing to group up?
Lord Psynister
member, 118 posts
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5E Dungeons and Dragons
Tue 28 Mar 2017
at 01:12
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

If you end up going for 5E, count me in as another player. Especially if you're interested in running with other Rogues in the group.
Bannacor
member, 165 posts
Tue 28 Mar 2017
at 02:14
  • msg #4

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

 I have always wanted to explore the Thieves Guild aspect in the Free City of Greyhawk and the surrounding areas. Thieves in a traditional adventuring party are little more then the find the trap/disarm the trap, sneak ahead and scout for the group. While there is nothing wrong with that, I was just looking for something different.

 I think it would be interesting to rp a Thief or a group of Thieves working for the Guild of Thieves in Greyhawk.  But I am good with solo or a group in that setting.

 While I appreciate you good folks responding, we have no GM, not yet anyway.
This message was last edited by the user at 02:15, Tue 28 Mar 2017.
MrBojab
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Tue 28 Mar 2017
at 09:38
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

I'd definitely be in as a player, I even have a character in mind that will be something decidedly different for a thieves guild. As much as I'd be willing to GM, I just don't have the time at present.
Bannacor
member, 166 posts
Tue 28 Mar 2017
at 11:49
  • msg #6

Greyhawk Thieves Guild


 Wow, we have a cast for a play without a Director. If this was a table top group,I would be tempted to GM this. But I stink at trying to run something RPOL for many reasons. Here is hoping someone comes by and picks up the gauntlet of this idea.

 Have a great days folks
Bannacor
member, 167 posts
Tue 28 Mar 2017
at 11:51
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

In reply to Soulforge (msg # 2):

Solo or a group, to answer your question Soulforge. Kewl name FYI
Soulforge
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Tue 28 Mar 2017
at 15:05
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

In reply to Bannacor (msg # 7):

Thanks. :)
Good luck finding a group.
I hate buying new editions after buying so many 4th ed books but imight have to break down and get 5th sometime. :/
Bannacor
member, 168 posts
Tue 28 Mar 2017
at 15:59
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

 I have been using second edition AKA Advanced Dungeons and Dragons since 1984. I only bought the fifth edition players hand book,so I could play in a now defunct FITH edition game.
This message was last edited by the user at 00:01, Wed 29 Mar 2017.
Lord Psynister
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Thu 30 Mar 2017
at 02:11
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

I might be able to DM it for 5E, but I won't be able to get started on it for about 4+ weeks. I've got a lot of personal and business travel coming up in the next few weeks, and won't have much time to put anything together during that time.

I got rid of all of my old books after I got into 5E, so I won't be able to play or run it in any other edition.
Bannacor
member, 171 posts
Thu 30 Mar 2017
at 22:50
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

That is very kind of you, to make the offer. When your schedule is cleared in the coming weeks, please drop me a line,so we can talk it over. Thank you again/
Bannacor
member, 177 posts
Mon 10 Apr 2017
at 20:50
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Bump
Scaramouche
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Mon 10 Apr 2017
at 21:37
  • msg #13

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Bannacor, what specific style of game would interest you? Are you wanting to play a "Sopranos" with swords and spells style game, that focuses on the mob-like aspects of the Guild of Theives? That style of play would focus more on rivalries between the thieves of the various quarters, perhaps, and the tension of being criminals among the law abiding citizens of Greyhawk.

Or, are you more interested in a heist style game, that revolves around the planning and execution of various robberies and scams - maybe akin to a "Leverage" with swords and spells. This might be more episodic in nature, and feature relatively fewer politics and consequences than a "Sopranos" style game.

Also, are you keen to see the use of the various NPCs outlined in the various TSR supplements? Or are you open to new NPCs, new Guilds, new 'history' of Greyhawk being introduced?

What are your favorite parts of the Gem of the Flannaes that you'd like to see brought up / portrayed in the game?
Bannacor
member, 178 posts
Mon 10 Apr 2017
at 22:51
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

 Greetings,

 To begin with, thank you for answering my GM wanted add. You ask many pointed questions, and I shall do my humble best to answer them.

 I have been rping off and on for decades. And in all that time, I have been the GM, DM, etc., for the old gang, and the new group I hooked up with a few years ago. I finally burned out a couple of years ago, and laid my DM screen down for the foreseeable future. Now I just want to be a player, and enjoy that side of the DM screen.

 The above was part of my answer to your questions. All you bespoke of is what I wish to experience in any potential game. The intrigue within the guild, and the thrill of pulling off “jobs” in the city, and perhaps other locations. And yes, to the established Greyhawk characters, or those of your imagination.

 Having been a long time GM, I have perspective from that side of the screen, so I am very flexible in response to your questions. The GM has to enjoy the experience as well the player or players.

  I would like to experience the city of Greyhawk as a player, both above and below ground. I think there is enough there to keep us busy. However, if you want to take the plotline out of the city from time to time, I am good with that. The skies the limit.

 Thank you, for your time, and attention. Cheers!
Scaramouche
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Mon 10 Apr 2017
at 23:11
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Cool. Thanks for the quick response. Let me mull it over and see if I can come up with a good story hook.
Solo GM
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Wed 7 Mar 2018
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This message was deleted by a moderator, as it was against the forum rules, at 15:13, Wed 07 Mar 2018.
Bannacor
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Fri 13 Dec 2019
at 01:19
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

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Bannacor
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Mon 23 Dec 2019
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

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Bannacor
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Mon 30 Dec 2019
at 23:55
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild


 Bumpy Bump
Bannacor
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Tue 21 Jan 2020
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

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zackcalahan
member, 7 posts
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 07:36
  • msg #21

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

What's the status of this game? Did the potential DM not work out or are you still looking for new players? I could DM but haven't read anything on Greyhawk in years. Somewhere in storage I have the boxset and the 2nd edition Greyhawk book which did have much for the city it's self aside from a few NPCs. The Falcom series of modules had the most officially published city details, yes? Or is there lots of stuff online? Is that Canonfire site still active and do they cover the city?
Bannacor
member, 272 posts
Wed 22 Jan 2020
at 14:45
  • msg #22

Greyhawk Thieves Guild


 Greetings,

 It did not work out, I am still seeking a GM for what I think is a great idea. Not sure if the canonfire site is still up or not.

 Thank you for your offer to become a GM
Bannacor
member, 273 posts
Tue 28 Jan 2020
at 21:05
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild


 Guess he lost interest. ( sigh)

 Bump
Bannacor
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Thu 6 Feb 2020
at 21:53
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild


 Bump
V_V
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Fri 7 Feb 2020
at 05:00
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

D&D 5e. Interested? Definitely! Able? Possibly, not even probably. Based on your success rate for just getting a game going, I'd be excited to try. I probably can't do much worse. Though if I do I hope it leaves you no worse than you are now.

I prefer greyhawk over any other prefab world. I played Living Greyhawk in 3.5 and much of the lore is saturated into the system regardless of the edition. I know the least about Greyhawk, the jewel, itself, and more about elsewhere in Oerth, such as Dyvers, Bandit Kingdoms, and Shieldlands. I would be not only willing, but excited to read up on the changes, and differences in 5e. I love the criminal theme (?) for 5e, and would really like to see your thief have it. If not your thief, then maybe another major player.

My idea would be an arms race against the lawful entities as well as misery noble caravans. There would likely be big scores, a few being stings set up by the guard or merchants, but many legitimate but risky marks. Most would be staple thefts though, or those where you'd have ample "outs" planned out as Larry Lawton puts it. I'd probably want to assemble a list of, oh, maybe ten NPCs both protagonists (rather on your side) and antagonists. Some would be mooks, some major players, most that do as their told but without true conviction. In fact, if you'd prefer I can even make rival thieves's guild, or one where your party could try to join and take over from the inside. We can have the Tu Pac thieves code, to robin hood's "rich do not keep their earn, for nor vice versa" to "I covet what the system has denoted I may never have" all the way down to "I enjoy the fact you take solace in the guard protecting your wealth. All the better that I may pick your paltry locks"

I'm thinking of a "death" of a party member being rather like the British capture of the best locksmith and giving him a free release if he could pick the "unpickable"
lock. So while merchants' guards may strike to kill, guards would strike to capture. This would also create impromptu prison breaks, which could be fun. The idea would be fail forward, and should you all get captured, worst case scenario, you'd meet some shady person in the joint who may want help for the "Great Escape".

I have the above the idea, and I'm excited! For the mere fact IRL my "religion" being the practice of sedition. I've had both RL and fictional depiction of crime sliced thick and thin and I have confidence (other than RL interference) that I can GM a game pulpy or gritty, or somewhere in between. I would highly prefer the game be mature, but would be negotiable on either other category if the players and circumstances warrant that discussion.
Bannacor
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Wed 27 May 2020
at 22:37
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Bump
Pinebox
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Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 13:31
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This message was deleted by a moderator, as it was against the forum rules, at 13:53, Wed 22 July 2020.
Jarodemo
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Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 13:42
  • msg #28

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Id be interested in a 5e thieves guild type game, especially urban based.
StarMaster
member, 356 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 16:35
  • msg #29

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

So, still no Thieves game?

I could try my hand at running it. I don't really know much about Greyhawk, but I'm sure I could find most information online.
Jarodemo
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Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 18:55
  • msg #30

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

In reply to StarMaster (msg # 29):

Does it need to be Greyhawk? I’m not fussed either way...
StarMaster
member, 357 posts
Fri 24 Jul 2020
at 13:21
  • msg #31

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

No, it probably doesn't have to be Greyhawk. I wasn't really impressed with the way they did the Thieves' Guild there. I also considered Lankhmar, Tharbad or a homegrown city that I made a Thieves' Guild for. The one in Greyhawk seems more like today's Republican party.

I'm figuring that no matter what city gets used, there'll be some players who won't know anything about the city anyway.

I thought this game had gotten started long ago, but I guess no one wanted to tackle Greyhawk City.
Bannacor
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Tue 23 Mar 2021
at 23:52
  • msg #32

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Bump
Lord Psynister
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Mon 29 Mar 2021
at 18:24
  • msg #33

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

I still have a lot of the preliminary notes I made when I initially responded. Those 4 weeks of busy time actually turned into 3 years of busy time. I'm not terribly familiar with cities in any setting (other than Eberron). Let me see if I can find more info on Greyhawk specifically, so I can do the setting justice.
Bannacor
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Wed 7 Apr 2021
at 21:51
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

 Sounds good
Lord Psynister
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Wed 7 Apr 2021
at 23:34
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

What kind of things do you want to do as part of the thieves' guild?

Are you looking for robbing places? Assignments like collecting protection fees around the city? Jobs for assassination? Do you want to always be given assignments to go do, or you have free reign of the city and only come here as a safe spot?
StarMaster
member, 375 posts
Thu 8 Apr 2021
at 14:24
  • msg #36

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

My intent had always been to have several Thieves' Guilds where each specialized in some particular aspect of thieving. While Greyhawk City has a unified guild, you could still have factions that did different things: second-story work, art forgery, protection rackets, kidnappings, cutpurses, spying, highway robbery, etc.

If you limit the PCs to one kind of operation, then they'd need to tailor their characters to that. Otherwise, let them make up characters and see what the characters are good for.

Personal preference would be to have a mix of assignments and choice. Say, once a month the Guild requests  your services for some job. The rest of the time, you are on your own.

Without going back and re-reading about Greyhawk City's Thieves' Guild, I'd tend to go with that it exists in an equilibrium with the authorities; that is, the authorities tolerate the Guild because the Guild keeps its thieves in line. If it was rampant chaos, the city would have to spent a lot of money, effort, manpower and resources to curtail it. That may also be prompted by the Guildmaster blackmailing one or more officials (there's a couple of adventures right there!).

So, as long as the PCs don't get too carried away (rob too much or from the wrong people, or starting leaving a trail of bodies), they should be fine. That's not too say one of the other factions doesn't try to recruit them or sabotage them or even kill them if they get too successful.

Ultimately, they need a source of information about targets, be it overhearing servants talking in a bar or disguising themselves as someone who could reasonably be in the right place. Beggars, bums and homeless people that might be on a street tend to be ignored as if they weren't there. So, they could overhear significant conversations... or just leads.

Or, imagine the Authorities asking them to do a 'job'--dirty work that the sheriffs, bailiffs, guards or police can't or won't do! Plausible deniability!

Anyway that's my two coppers!
Bannacor
member, 294 posts
Sat 10 Apr 2021
at 11:34
  • msg #37

Greyhawk Thieves Guild


 I like a lot of what StarMaster said. I could get behind that sort of game. It does not have to be Greyhawk, I just like the city as a GM, and wanted to experience it as a player. But I am very flexible on what city or fantasy world it it located in.

 As far as Assassination type missions, I don't see thieves getting into that, as usually there is a guild of killers around. but not always.
Bannacor
member, 297 posts
Mon 26 Apr 2021
at 06:13
  • msg #38

Greyhawk Thieves Guild


 Still  waiting on  GM for this interesting idea. Here is hoping.
CaptainHellrazor
member, 117 posts
Mon 26 Apr 2021
at 07:29
  • msg #39

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Is your thief a Greyhawk native?  Or a blow in from somewhere else?
Bannacor
member, 298 posts
Mon 26 Apr 2021
at 09:22
  • msg #40

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

In reply to CaptainHellrazor (msg # 39):

 I never really thought about it. I guess the character would be a native  of Greyhawk. But I am flexible.
Lord Psynister
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Mon 26 Apr 2021
at 13:06
  • msg #41

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

I was planning to run it, but boss decided we have to start working in the office again, so there's 10+hours of my free time each week out the window for a crap commute.
Bannacor
member, 299 posts
Mon 26 Apr 2021
at 15:07
  • msg #42

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

In reply to Lord Psynister (msg # 41):

 Well. Thanks anyway. Good luck.
Jhaelan
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Thu 29 Apr 2021
at 19:02
  • msg #43

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Tempted, taking a peek a throwing some things together
Jhaelan
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Thu 29 Apr 2021
at 20:55
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Greyhawk Thieves Guild

Bannacor
member, 300 posts
Fri 30 Apr 2021
at 06:13
  • msg #45

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

In reply to Jhaelan (msg # 43):

 Here is hoping. Thanks
Bannacor
member, 354 posts
Mon 6 Mar 2023
at 02:57
  • msg #46

Greyhawk Thieves Guild

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