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Subscription option in the future?

Posted by Lance H
shady joker
member, 1538 posts
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 18:30
  • msg #7

Re: Subscription option in the future?

I fear you just to have to let your wife know you are a roleplaying geek or go with the free membership. But fear not, I suspect she knows of your roleplaying geekery already.
Heath
member, 2703 posts
If my opinion changes,
The answer is still 42.
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 18:48
  • msg #8

Re: Subscription option in the future?

I wasn't referring to me specifically in the joke because my wife and I have separate accounts.  I just know she rolls her eyes patronizingly if I spend money on anything related to "games" and can imagine how it might be for someone with financial sensitivities.  She finally stopped trying to throw out my boxes of game materials when I told them they were vintage collectibles.  :)
gillisle02
member, 362 posts
Occassionally a little
randomness can be fun
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 18:53
  • msg #9

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Tileira:
I think "not everyone has a paypal account" is an odd reason. If you don't have a paypal account or a debit/credit card, then I think the chances of you wanting to buy a subscription and expecting to be able to are pretty slim.


As a young girl I had my id stolen by someone using paypal, as a result I will never voluntarily use paypal.  And I, like I am sure some rpollers, have no consitant income.  For logistical sake and those behind rpol's greatness I am behind the subscribe, but otherwise never have been fully behind it for the reasons listed.
jaberwok
member, 179 posts
Twas brillig & the slithy
toves did gyre and gimbal
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 19:01
  • msg #10

Re: Subscription option in the future?

facemaker329:
Credit/debit cards are problematic because there are RPOL users who are minors and may not be able to persuade a parent to help them get a card (or make a payment with their own card on the minor's behalf).


I don't think this is as big of a sticking point as it might appear. One of the benefits of subscription was going to be access to adult games.
Lance H
member, 47 posts
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 19:16
  • msg #11

Re: Subscription option in the future?

jaberwok:
One of the benefits of subscription was going to be access to adult games.

I was just hoping that a paid subscription would get me a larger ScratchPad.  I keep so many game notes there that it's constantly full, and I need more space.  : )
bigbadron
moderator, 14272 posts
He's big, he's bad,
but mostly he's Ron.
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 19:22

Re: Subscription option in the future?

In reply to jaberwok (msg # 10):

And yet payment options ARE just about the biggest sticking point.  There are countries where credit cards are not so common, and Paypal may not be an option.

Should we exclude every site member from those countries from ever having access to Adult games on RPoL, simply because only a relatively small fraction of the adult population of those countries have a credit card?

And we have to be careful what other options are offered, since security is, as always, a primary consideration.
Heath
member, 2704 posts
If my opinion changes,
The answer is still 42.
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 20:07
  • msg #13

Re: Subscription option in the future?

That's a good point.  I went for years in Japan never using a credit card (although I was lucky to have a few U.S. cards I could use when traveling or doing something online).
shady joker
member, 1539 posts
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 21:23
  • msg #14

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Well, forgive me if I ask a redundant question, what is the benefit of subscribing? I can't remember anyone saying "If you subscribe you get these features (list of things) and If you do not subscribe you do not get them." As it stands I am currently happy with how things are ran here. Is rpol simply low on funding or are you trying to add new features to the site?
jaberwok
member, 180 posts
Twas brillig & the slithy
toves did gyre and gimbal
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 21:40
  • msg #15

Re: Subscription option in the future?

In reply to bigbadron (msg # 12):

That's a very good point; I had meant to simply address the comment about minors having subscriptions.
Heath
member, 2705 posts
If my opinion changes,
The answer is still 42.
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 22:08
  • msg #16

Re: Subscription option in the future?

In reply to shady joker (msg # 14):

I don't recall if they were going to add new features or not, but I think part of the reason is that minors tend not to have credit cards, so it would better ensure they do not participate in adult content games or break the ToL.
bigbadron
moderator, 14273 posts
He's big, he's bad,
but mostly he's Ron.
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 22:15

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Yes, there will be additional features for subscribers.  One of the suggestions, a larger scratchpad, was mentioned above.  Others were suggested, but there is no final list.

One thing that has definitely been decided is that only subscribers would be able to access Adult games.
shady joker
member, 1540 posts
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 22:21
  • msg #18

Re: Subscription option in the future?

In reply to bigbadron (msg # 17):

Then I fear you will be locked in your current PayPal quandary for quite sometime. Of course there are people who are more qualified to weigh in and help with the subject.
facemaker329
member, 6349 posts
Gaming for over 30
years, and counting!
Thu 10 Apr 2014
at 23:25
  • msg #19

Re: Subscription option in the future?

In reply to shady joker (msg # 18):

And that is why there is no projected date for incorporating subscriptions.  If/when an option that satisfies the criteria of those making the decision comes available, it'll happen.  Until then, things are working relatively well as-is and I personally think it's better to bide your time until the right opportunity comes along than rush into something and give yourself a few dozen new problems to have to resolve.

Also--access to Adult games doesn't HAVE to be part of the subscription package.  I would imagine someone could, theoretically, subscribe as a minor and get all the other odds and ends.  It's just that, once subscriptions start, ONLY people with subscriptions will have access to Adult games, as I understand it.  I mean, from a purely commercial point of view, it doesn't make much sense to NOT take someone's money because they're too young to access Adult material, if they want the rest of the subscription package.

Regardless of all the back-and-forth about the whats and whys of it, though, the point is, the plans are still in place to do it at some point...but there is no projected date (not even a rough projection) for it to happen.
Lance H
member, 48 posts
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 00:08
  • msg #20

Re: Subscription option in the future?

. . . so, subscriptions aside, is there any way to get a bigger ScratchPad?  : )
facemaker329
member, 6350 posts
Gaming for over 30
years, and counting!
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 01:07
  • msg #21

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Use smaller words?
shady joker
member, 1541 posts
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 02:32
  • msg #22

Re: Subscription option in the future?

In reply to Lance H (msg # 20):

I'd suggest saving some of your notes to word or some other document? To use the whole scratch pad must mean you have epic level of detail since your scratch and scribbles are so much.
Lance H
member, 49 posts
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 02:48
  • msg #23

Re: Subscription option in the future?

shady joker:
I'd suggest saving some of your notes to word or some other document? To use the whole scratch pad must mean you have epic level of detail since your scratch and scribbles are so much.

I certainly use a Word doc.  It's sitting at 128,133 words long at the moment (242 pages)--all material related to my campaign.  So yeah, I wouldn't mind a longer ScratchPad for quick reference. :)
Silver_Cat
member, 48 posts
Another cat
on the internet
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 03:54
  • msg #24

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Start a thread in your game in a group only you can see and save your notes there?
GamerHandle
member, 563 posts
Umm.. yep.
So, there's this door...
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 03:56
  • msg #25

Re: Subscription option in the future?

If you're the GM... make a thread - set a group only you can see...
steelsmiter
member, 843 posts
GURPS, FFd6, Pathfinder
NO FREEFORM!
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 04:21
  • msg #26

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Personally, the size of my scratch pad is the number of Z threads I can have in any given game multiplied by 1000 posts. I use GM-ing privelages to my advantage as the others have mentioned.
facemaker329
member, 6351 posts
Gaming for over 30
years, and counting!
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 07:22
  • msg #27

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Doesn't even have to be Group Z threads...just some group that nobody else can see.
jase
admin, 3294 posts
Cogito, ergo procuro.
Carpe stultus!
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 07:51

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Thank you for asking and offering.

By some strange coincidence I've been talking to my accountant about this (how grown up of me) and how it needs to be done.  At this stage it's looking pretty simple, so it might actually be happening soon.

For the interim it'll probably just be PayPal, and we'll monitor it from there.  It's flattering that people do want to help support the site so I'll probably push ahead with the quickest, easiest and most widespread payment gateway first.

Perks we'll flesh out as things develop, as well as other payment gateways you can use to show your support.
Heath
member, 2706 posts
If my opinion changes,
The answer is still 42.
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 16:16
  • msg #29

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Lance H:
. . . so, subscriptions aside, is there any way to get a bigger ScratchPad?  : )

I use the GM character sheet or a separate private GM thread for overflow, or just a Word version of what I want handy. There are many alternatives to the limited scratchpad.
borderline_dnd
member, 284 posts
Fri 11 Apr 2014
at 16:40
  • msg #30

Re: Subscription option in the future?

Funny
I always thought of the scratchpad as a sticky postit note on rpol. And here I'm reading that folks want to use it to post several .... a thread is much easier since you can also post links in the thread :)
fireflights
member, 128 posts
playing with Fire
always burns
Tue 29 Jul 2014
at 20:19
  • msg #31

Re: Subscription option in the future?

The problem I see with this is it's going to cost you a lot of people on Rpol because honestly, some of us just don't have the income to do what you all are asking of us. I know I have no viable income and you can't use food stamps, I watch my friends kids for room and board so I don't have any funds. If you make it so we have to pay to play our games in the adult section, then I will be forced to leave.
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