In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 423):

lighting is recast and taught free of charge.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 424):

Ok, cool. So add them to my sheet, and note the cost to subtract.

The spell that rolled a 5 to learn, is there any benefit to that?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 425)
Mark this perk:
any critical fail of Lightning is best of two rolls on the critical table.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 426):

Done. Thank you.

For Kirpich setting up his temple, I would have to ask the following questions:

- Cost in CP for the base. Do we pay extra, or is it part of reward for the mission? or we spend cp from the mission to keep it?
- Having a priest as an Ally running the temple. Frequency of appearance can be reduced, as he does not appear helping so often as he does not travel with us so much. Only with missions based there...correct?
- Financial cost to set up the Temple. We have a ton of cash, how much does it cost to set up the temple? I assume this would take the place of tithing in the respect that the Temple is really Groms, so he is definitely giving more that the tithe to the temple!

My thinking, 1 x 50% Ally Initiate, priest), 2 x 25% Ally (Dwarven Guard, Disciple), FOA of 9 or less (x1), + 2 points into the base at this stage, plus a bucket of cash. Thoughts?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:10, Thu 13 July 2023.

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 428):

A bucket of cash is right; going byu the rules for setting up a tavern (as an example) $10k will net you Cost of living covered for one plus a free 62 point servant (or cultist in this case) more like a novitiate friar than a mighty vicar.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 429):

Ok, so $20 k +1 cp as a base + Allies (2+1+1 cp) for a 125 point Initiate + 2x 62 point assistants (Guard + Disciple for Initiate), (modified for Kirpich cp) would be reasonable? Cost is double cash plus 5 cp total?

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 430)

a guard and a cultist is not bad but you will need at least a servant, and to equip them as well, and with uniforms/livery

you collectively have points in Base, so yu needn't pay those yet

In reply to Narrator (msg # 431):

As a thought, we all paid points into the tower, and we've also given equal shares to our associates (NPCs) so perhaps they can donate come points into the tower as well?

In reply to Hannatti (msg # 432):

to clarify, you are collectively sharing a 20 pt mansion as a base.

Ok, TY!
Not sure how that works but it sounds nice.

In reply to Hannatti (msg # 434):

base is a perk that gets you a (your) status-2 rent free location to operate from. for many this means a back table in a tavern, or a really crappy office space. buying up levels can increase it closer to a home of your status.

3e had a VtM ported advanage called Mansion which was worth 20 points; the long lost Otherwhre.org's rules for Advanced Goblins and Grottoes for GURPS had a silimar variable cost advantage called Sanctuary which let ou build a rich secre lair like the Batcave for 40 point and an impenetrable pocket dimension for something like 60-80 points.
20 gets you a modest castle or fortalace like the one you have.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 435):

That helps lots. TY!

In reply to Hannatti (msg # 434):

So the Allies with the FoA is reasonable, but we need to put more cp into the mansion then? Say, about 4 points per the floor? 3 cp per floor above ground leaves 8 points for the underground level, which seems unbalanced. Thoughts?

Kirpich, being an Grom (Earth) Cleric, would like to build his temple in the basement. Probably the winecellars...

Hey! No Messing with the wine cellars! we need to get them restocked and working again.

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 437):

We've already pumped about 5CP each into the tower; (at least four but not more than six).
Can't put any more in until we actually earn them!

In reply to Aethul (msg # 438):

Move the wine cellars to the crypt! We will not be needing that indoors...it is better to have a graveyard for that!

Ah, I had saved my CP for Allies to man it! Hence the discussion on manning it.

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 440):

the crypt was a low sanctity area.  adeeper level might be better for an earth temple.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 441):

That is very true, but we will want to deal with that low sanctity area regardless...how can this be done?

On the other questions, 4 cp for the Initiate disciple and guard OK, with a FOA of 9 or less, ie they spend most of their time at the tower, if not all, and therefore are only involved in adventures the relate to the tower?

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 442):

Here are the Char sheets, if you are happy with them, for the 2x25% and 1x50% henchmen, if you approve, hopefully found at the temple of Grom?
This message was last edited by the player at 04:22, Fri 04 Aug 2023.

broadminded and intolerant are not compatible; lose intolerance and SoD companions and instead add duty (not sense of duty) 10 to the temple; your acolyte will be bound to the temple unless 6 or less is rolled;
your cultist should have lend energy and a basic esrth spell, like seek earth , not detect magic.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 444):

Cool. Updated...

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 445):

I have noted that Aopife's allies have not been upgraded with her. May I suggest the following?
This message was last edited by the player at 10:56, Sun 24 Sept 2023.

In reply to Aoife (msg # 446):

no targeted attack for bear; increases for wrestling skill advisable. other skills good

In reply to Narrator (msg # 447):

Ok, cool. Advantages, such as Combat Reflexes and PI(Druidic), plus dual attacks also good?