In Into the Vale:

$18000 worth of gold alchemical tools

the formulary msy be worth more...

It might well be, but I'm still ethically torn on whether we should sell it at all.

In reply to Evelina Grattan (msg # 414):

"I think with appropriate warnings it could be something we can benefit from. There are many instances every day that demonstrate that we cannot protect people against their own greed, but we can warn them. That is what we should do, but it would be remit of us to deny the research that cost the alchemist his life just because we could not trust future researchers not to kill themselves with their own greed. Indeed, it can be used to pay for their recovery."

This was missed?

In reply to Tommy (msg # 416):

that is available.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 417):

Thank you! Will purchase that then.

In reply to Tommy (msg # 418):

Are spells still $20/fp cost, plus a Thaumatology roll?
This message was last updated by the player at 06:47, Fri 07 July 2023.

most of the cold spells aren't available from Spielgud-the earth and lightning spells are, but beyond cold and resist cold he has no other frost spells... but there is one you know pf who does, as seen in a firey vision...

In reply to Narrator (msg # 420):

Yes, I was going to come to that next...does anyone in the guild know cold spells? They would be the best place to start about that investigation...

So spells I can get now are

this goes well... until Spielgud critically miscasts lightning... and the resultant storm ends up zapping you both for 2 pts plus stun...

In reply to Speilgud (msg # 422):

Christine is willing to accept a discount for him teaching the rest to make up for the pain...

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 423):

lighting is recast and taught free of charge.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 424):

Ok, cool. So add them to my sheet, and note the cost to subtract.

The spell that rolled a 5 to learn, is there any benefit to that?

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 425)
Mark this perk:
any critical fail of Lightning is best of two rolls on the critical table.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 426):

Done. Thank you.

For Kirpich setting up his temple, I would have to ask the following questions:

- Cost in CP for the base. Do we pay extra, or is it part of reward for the mission? or we spend cp from the mission to keep it?
- Having a priest as an Ally running the temple. Frequency of appearance can be reduced, as he does not appear helping so often as he does not travel with us so much. Only with missions based there...correct?
- Financial cost to set up the Temple. We have a ton of cash, how much does it cost to set up the temple? I assume this would take the place of tithing in the respect that the Temple is really Groms, so he is definitely giving more that the tithe to the temple!

My thinking, 1 x 50% Ally Initiate, priest), 2 x 25% Ally (Dwarven Guard, Disciple), FOA of 9 or less (x1), + 2 points into the base at this stage, plus a bucket of cash. Thoughts?
This message was last edited by the player at 02:10, Thu 13 July 2023.

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 428):

A bucket of cash is right; going byu the rules for setting up a tavern (as an example) $10k will net you Cost of living covered for one plus a free 62 point servant (or cultist in this case) more like a novitiate friar than a mighty vicar.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 429):

Ok, so $20 k +1 cp as a base + Allies (2+1+1 cp) for a 125 point Initiate + 2x 62 point assistants (Guard + Disciple for Initiate), (modified for Kirpich cp) would be reasonable? Cost is double cash plus 5 cp total?

In reply to Kirpich Rockson (msg # 430)

a guard and a cultist is not bad but you will need at least a servant, and to equip them as well, and with uniforms/livery

you collectively have points in Base, so yu needn't pay those yet

In reply to Narrator (msg # 431):

As a thought, we all paid points into the tower, and we've also given equal shares to our associates (NPCs) so perhaps they can donate come points into the tower as well?

In reply to Hannatti (msg # 432):

to clarify, you are collectively sharing a 20 pt mansion as a base.

Ok, TY!
Not sure how that works but it sounds nice.

In reply to Hannatti (msg # 434):

base is a perk that gets you a (your) status-2 rent free location to operate from. for many this means a back table in a tavern, or a really crappy office space. buying up levels can increase it closer to a home of your status.

3e had a VtM ported advanage called Mansion which was worth 20 points; the long lost Otherwhre.org's rules for Advanced Goblins and Grottoes for GURPS had a silimar variable cost advantage called Sanctuary which let ou build a rich secre lair like the Batcave for 40 point and an impenetrable pocket dimension for something like 60-80 points.
20 gets you a modest castle or fortalace like the one you have.

In reply to Narrator (msg # 435):

That helps lots. TY!

In reply to Hannatti (msg # 434):

So the Allies with the FoA is reasonable, but we need to put more cp into the mansion then? Say, about 4 points per the floor? 3 cp per floor above ground leaves 8 points for the underground level, which seems unbalanced. Thoughts?

Kirpich, being an Grom (Earth) Cleric, would like to build his temple in the basement. Probably the winecellars...