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IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Posted by Undead Trout
Undead Trout
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Sun 12 Jun 2016
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IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

They call you lasers. Or scrubbers. Or regulators. Or, out in the Scylla Outzone, shinestars. To the lawless denizens of the Bleed, whether they be pirates, gangsters or tyrants, you're known in less flattering terms. According to official Combine terminology, the members of your hard-bitten starship crew are known as Licensed Autonomous Zone Effectuators. You're the seasoned freelancers local leaders call when a situation proves too tough, too baffling, or simply too weird to handle on their own. In the abandoned fringe of inhabited planets known as the Bleed, you're as close to a federal authority as they come.

Sometimes that's not saying much. Nearly any planetsider can tell you a horror story of effectuators gone wrong. Motivated by profit and operating on razor-thin margins, laser crews are all too tempted to cross the line, to become the kind of scum they're paid to hunt. You may despise the crooked contractors who give your profession a bad name and make it harder to win the trust of honest citizens. Or you might be hanging on the edge of corruption yourselves. However deep your ethical commitments, you struggle to maintain at least the appearance of a sparkling reputation. The value of your next contract depends on it.

The Bleed wasn't always the untamed fringe it is today. Less than a generation ago, it was the glamorous frontier of an interstellar, culture-spanning government dedicated to peace, understanding, and self-determination. The Combine, an amalgamation of interstellar empires founded two centuries ago, had achieved its apex. With humanity at the forefront, its united peoples expanded throughout the dense belt of solar systems then known as the Wave. Sleek, generously-manned star vessels patrolled its FTL corridors, keeping the peace, confronting anomalies, and solving problems. Shielded by their universal ideology of cooperation, the peoples of the Wave slumbered safe in their beds.

Then came the Mohilar War. For the first time in a century, the Combine faced an enemy strong enough to threaten its very existence. The Mohilar arose suddenly, on planets throughout Combine space which were thought to be uninhabitable. Due to a bizarre psychic effect dubbed the Bogey Conundrum, memories of the Mohilar race have grown indistinct and contradictory, even though the last of them vanished less than a decade ago. What they did is remembered all too well. Mastering a strange and incompatible material technology, they roused vast war fleets, attacking without warning or mercy. They rampaged through Combine space. The atmospheres of its core planets, including Earth, were irreparably poisoned. Billions of civilians died, on both sides. Industrial production flat-lined, provoking economic collapse in a society that had transcended the need for currency. The Combine's glittering fleets of patrol vessels, pressed into unfamiliar service as military ships, were largely destroyed.

Seven years ago, the war ended. After suffering a surprise defeat in a decisive last-ditch engagement at Myndaro Station, the Mohilar abruptly vanished. Fears of their return remain high. In the meantime, a reconstituted, decentralized Combine has begun the tortuous process of rebuilding its economy, government, and war fleet. Barely able to administer its surviving core worlds, the Combine has abandoned central control over its far-flung frontiers. More than any other sector, the once-proud Bleed has been left largely on its own. Combine vessels venture here only in direst emergency — usually to investigate signs of a possible Mohilar resurgence. The Bleed's various planets are now essentially autonomous, though united by a common currency and various economic and cultural ties.

The old duties of Combine patrols are now outsourced to private contractors like you. You may cruise around the spacelanes waiting to respond to emergency distress calls. This activity, known as "swooping", is looked down on by higher-end lasers, who pick and choose their missions. Through this procedure, a distress call is routed through a Combine outpost. The outpost then sends a proffer to all registered laser ships within hailing range. Each ship bids on the contract. The Combine authorizes the winner to proceed to the site of the call and solve whatever problem the locals report. The bid system takes into account the reputations of the bidding vessels, giving the scrubbers incentive to keep it honest. Or what passes for honest in the Bleed.



Ashen Stars is a gritty space opera setting in which the player-characters are freelance operatives policing the farthest reaches of an interstellar federation recovering after a war with an unknown foe. It is the fifth in the Gumshoe line of investigative  roleplaying games, created by Robin D. Laws and published by Pelgrane Press. Much as I love Gumshoe, I have long wanted to swap out the system in favor of something else. Games I have entertained include Other Worlds, Bulldogs!: FATE Core Edition, OpenD6, Uncharted Worlds, and even Risus. Anyone else love this setting and eagerly want to play in it?
Alyse
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Sun 12 Jun 2016
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IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Count me in. Bulldogs! or Other Worlds would be my choices.

Oh, just thought of another! Do a Dogs In The Vineyard hack.
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Tuttu
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Mon 13 Jun 2016
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IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

After trying Stars Without Number, I always wanted to try Ashen Stars so if you don't mind someone with no knowledge of the system, then you can count me in. :)
Undead Trout
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Mon 13 Jun 2016
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IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

In reply to Tuttu (msg # 3):

We would not be using Ashen Stars' original system, Gumshoe. Are you familiar with any of the other systems mentioned in my initial post?
Undead Trout
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Mon 13 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Alyse:
Do a Dogs In The Vineyard hack.


Interesting thought. Someone did a Firefly-inspired hack of Dogs in the Vineyard which may serve as a basis for an Ashen Stars hack. I should try to locate a copy.
Morty
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

I believe openD6 and RISUS would be the best fit.

Or why not use GURPS Lite?

Dogs could work, but the town generation thing (the progression to heresy) would need to be balanced carefully.
Tuttu
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Undead Trout:
We would not be using Ashen Stars' original system, Gumshoe. Are you familiar with any of the other systems mentioned in my initial post?
Nope, I have never used one of them. I think I will just move away as it might be too long to learn a new system. :)
tsukoyomi
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

In reply to Tuttu (msg # 7):

I don't know the others or the original system, but FATE is one of the fastest systems to pick up there is, and I have a hard time believing it wouldn't be able to model the setting with a reasonable amount of success.

Color me interested if it goes for fate, btw.
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Tuttu
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

In reply to tsukoyomi (msg # 8):

Well, I will stick around here anyways and see how things evolve regarding the game system before I settle on my final decision. :)
Alyse
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Other Worlds is also pretty simple: you roll d100, add your relative ability and any modifiers, and attempt to beat a target number or opposing roll.
tsukoyomi
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Alyse:
Other Worlds is also pretty simple: you roll d100, add your relative ability and any modifiers, and attempt to beat a target number or opposing roll.

Most systems can be summed as something like that, and rolling is (usually) the simplest part of a system. The issue is (usually) the other crunchy bits, the class/skill/feat/spell/potato/knack/points, or the grappling. Some systems are very light on that and thus are easy to learn, others, not so much.
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Alyse
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

The extent of Other Worlds' crunchiness is in the use of supporting abilities to boost one's base ability in a conflict. Let's say your character hunts down the person responsible for the death of his wife and son, and you square off against that person for a classic high-noon gunfight in the dusty streets of Carson City. You decide to use Gunfighting as your base ability, and can add one-tenth of each of three supporting abilities to its score to improve your chances. You pick My Trusty Colt .45, Vengeance Will Be Mine, and Quick-Draw. Let's say all those abilities are rated at 50%. Each supporting ability adds 5% to your Gunfighting ability of 50%, for a total of 65%. You roll d100, add 65, and that's your total for the conflict.

Spotlight points, the game's equivalent of fate points or hero points, allow you to potentially alter the outcome of a conflict in three ways: spend one to use more than three supporting abilities, to reverse the polarity of your die roll (e.g. a 19 becomes a 91), or to raise the stakes of the conflict (the situation becomes even more precarious) and reroll. You gain spotlight points when you lose a meaningful conflict, when a supporting character with whom your character has a relationship dies, or when one or more players award you feedback for entertaining play. Pretty straight-forward, all in all. Think HeroQuest with elements of FATE, Primetime Adventures, and The Shadow Of Yesterday and you'll be close to the overall feel.
Undead Trout
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Tue 14 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

tsukoyomi:
Color me interested if it goes for fate, btw.


The chief sticking-point against FATE at the moment is the amount of work required to properly write up Ashen Stars' Seven Peoples in Bulldogs! terms.
Morty
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Wed 15 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Undead Trout:
tsukoyomi:
Color me interested if it goes for fate, btw.


The chief sticking-point against FATE at the moment is the amount of work required to properly write up Ashen Stars' Seven Peoples in Bulldogs! terms.


Well, just use RISUS then?

If you need help with the writeups, I can offer some of my time.
Undead Trout
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Wed 15 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

In reply to Morty (msg # 14):

You have a copy of Bulldogs!: FATE Core Edition and are familiar with how those rules stat out alien species?
Morty
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Wed 15 Jun 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Undead Trout:
In reply to Morty (msg # 14):

You have a copy of Bulldogs!: FATE Core Edition and are familiar with how those rules stat out alien species?


Well, the title page of the one I've got doesn't say "FATE core edition". I never got around to run the damn thing, though. There's a whole "Creating your species" section in there.

Then again I was hoping you'd use RISUS instead ^^
Undead Trout
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Fri 1 Jul 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

The Synergy system from Blue Planet keeps looking better and better. Ah, decisions.
Alyse
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Fri 1 Jul 2016
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Re: IC: Ashen Stars setting with different system.

Oooh, that might work really well!
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