The dF roller is WAY too constrained.  It should allow us the option to use a number other than 4.

The "Default" in the book is 4dF for many things, but even in the published texts, it allows for flexibility if the GM/Players so desire.  4 is kind of a happy medium.

It is also useful to use dF in other situations (I use them all the time when running DnD games for instance).

This should be a relatively small tweak, so I hope that helps the case a bit. :-)

It is what it is because that's what was asked for, if there's other options let me know what is and is not allowed and I can expand it.
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If there were a way to get around the fact that 1df and 1dF are not valid dice combinations, that might solve the problem, by allowing custom dice to be entered.

To me, that could be an ideal option really, add df and or dF to the custom dice options.  :-)

If he is still using Perl, then there is a way around everything.  :-)  Believe me, the language may be considered "old fashioned," and may no longer be the style of the moment, but it is still one of the strongest languages out there and it's forte is pattern recognition. :-)

As I said, tell me what's needed.  df and dF might mean something to you...

I need to know what is allowed, what isn't allowed, this includes number, size and modifiers, and what the mechanics are.

Presently the fudge roller rolls +,-,and blank. It rolls 4 of those dice (called 4dF by the book). There are lots of mechanics or even games that use a number of fudge dice other than 4.

So ...

a) there are only three valid results per die: +, - and blank ?
b) there can be any number of dice rolled but must be greater than 1 ?
c) what's the difference between #dF and #df ?
d) is that it for the mechanism/options ?


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A) I'm not entirely sure about blank to be honest.
B) No, the proposed change is to allow the user to imput any number in the x part of xdf.
C) Nothing, the proposition is that the custom dice recognize both F and f as fudge dice. Although if Fudge was added to the base dropdown menu and gave the same results the regular Fudge System dice gave, that would solve the problem.
D) I think so, maybe.

What should the roller do with modifiers to the roll, like +2 or -3? For example, what should 3dF+2 resolve as? Or 5dF-3?

How about if the section that's used for target number (and other things) prompts for the number of dice?  Somewhere between 1 and 99 being valid.  Is anything else needed?

The little box above the system drop down? Yeah, that would work if there was a prompt :D

df and dF mean exactly the same thing, people may use them interchangeably if the site allows.

Any number of dF's can be used in a roll, and it is pretty standard to read off the result as a positive or negative number total.  So, 3df can produce a number between -3 and +3.

Modifiers and the like are pretty much the same as for any other #dx type roll.

If I understand what you are saying that should work perfectly.  :)

*runs to look at dice roller*






3dF+2 would have a range of -1 to +5.

Some variations of fudge convert the +'s and -'s to adjectives, but we tend to be used to handling that part mentally, as the adjectives vary from game to game. :)

Ah, so really it just needs to be coded as a variant of a d3:

1df = 1dF = 1d3-2

Kind of.  That is how it ends up looking in the code that does the calculations.

If you did the whole "Display individual dice" thing, then it would use like -,+,blank, or similar.  From my perspective though, the display dice thing is not as important as it is for other die rolls though, as you kind of know that all of the dice contribute +1, -1, or nothing to the roll.

H'mmm ... checked the wiki and combined with the below, that seems to make it clearer (at least for me).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...aying_game_system%29

Each dice is six sided, and has two each of plus, minus and blank

When thrown together, the pluses and minuses cancel each other out.

How is the net result usually expressed ?  eg if I threw 5 dice and got 3 minuses, 1 blank and 1 plus, would we say 2 minuses or -2 ?

And a +2 is an adjustment of 2 plus results.

A lot simpler than it sounded to begin with ! <grins>

Yeah.  It is relatively simple.

And it's output can most easily be expressed as +X or -X.

Thanks! ^_^