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Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj.

Posted by DarkLightHitomi
DarkLightHitomi
member, 260 posts
Tue 29 Oct 2013
at 20:03
  • msg #1

Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

Some of the games I have joined or looked have a list of things to answer in your rtj. It would be helpful to have that list on the page I am writing the rtj in.

As it stands now, I need to write the questions down on paper so I can look at them while writing the rtj.

Granted, desktop users can just use multiple windows or tabs, but I cant, and I figure mobile users cant, well maybe the newer ones can, idk, Im not wealthy enough for newer stuff.

Dont know how much desire there is but I find it irritating.
Rinandien
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Tue 29 Oct 2013
at 20:07
  • msg #2

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

I usually copy the rtj, and fill answers after each question / list item. Or you can just write everything after the copied text and then remove it when you're done.
Evil Empryss
member, 791 posts
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Tue 29 Oct 2013
at 20:10
  • msg #3

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

I think it would be really cool if the "Request To Join" link would populate a PM with set content.  That would definitely get a +1 from me.

The work-around is to copy/paste the RTJ info into the PM and then answer them there.  It can be difficult on some devices (my Android phone is next to impossible to do this without it constantly highlighting things I don't want to change), but on my iPod/iPad it's a breeze.  This way you don't need multiple tabs or windows.
DarkLightHitomi
member, 261 posts
Tue 29 Oct 2013
at 20:33
  • msg #4

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

Except I cant C&P at all. Though my device is old, but still.
Evil Empryss
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Tue 29 Oct 2013
at 20:40
  • msg #5

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

No copy/paste?!?  O.O

Daaaaang.  I like no-frills computing, but that's a little too frill-less for me.

I still like the idea of an RTJ that is pre-filled with GM text that needs to be answered.  That would solve your problem and be especially good for Adult games to make sure that people supply the age statements.
PrettyBirdie1
member, 127 posts
Bird-brained
bird lover.
Tue 29 Oct 2013
at 23:04
  • msg #6

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

+1

I think this is a great idea, as it would save a lot of time.
Skald
moderator, 473 posts
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I'm against it
Wed 30 Oct 2013
at 06:07
  • msg #7

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

+1 from me.  :>

I think most GMs would specify requirements that potential players need to address, so it'd be nice if they preloaded on the RTJ request - sure most of us can copy and paste, but it'd be good not to have to.

I envisage an RTJ template set up by GM (in the same way we have character templates) which automatically loads on the first post in the RTJ thread.  As Evil Empryss says, great for those adult statements.
jase
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Wed 30 Oct 2013
at 11:59

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

My only concern with a template is the potential to annoy those who aren't actually doing a RTJ, which I'm sure does happen!
Mortixx
member, 195 posts
Wed 30 Oct 2013
at 12:08
  • msg #9

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

As a GM i like to see if potential players actually read the RTJ thread. More often then not theres a 'i got this awesome char' post and its obvious they haven't even seen the rtj thread. I dont think a standard rtj template will contain all the info i want someone to have read before RTJ-ing.

+0 if this would be a setting the GM could turn on/off
-1 if it would be a standard feature.
Claire Redfield
member, 185 posts
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Wed 30 Oct 2013
at 12:09
  • msg #10

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

This is an interesting idea. Could be a nifty little feature.

jase:
My only concern with a template is the potential to annoy those who aren't actually doing a RTJ, which I'm sure does happen!


I send RTJs to ask questions, certainly. But I suppose it'd be easier to ignore/delete the template content than it would be to add it, yeah?
Evil Empryss
member, 794 posts
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Wed 30 Oct 2013
at 12:19
  • msg #11

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

Mortixx:
I dont think a standard rtj template will contain all the info i want someone to have read before RTJ-ing.

When I say "template", I mean one the GM creates specific to their game, not something populated by RPOL.  Like you mentioned, that wouldn't be as functional.
DarkLightHitomi
member, 262 posts
Wed 30 Oct 2013
at 12:44
  • msg #12

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

Personally I was thinking of just seeing a special post under the normal text box (like how you can see recent posts in a thread you are replying to) with that special post being a list of what is needed in the rtj. Some games ask for a secret word or they wont accept. The secret word being found somewhere in the intro/rtj/houserules thread. I would expect that to work, particularly if when a player goes to fill out an rtj, a box shows up going "what is the secret word?" suddenly they notice they need to go read something, and if they still dont, its another rtj to ignore.
Skald
moderator, 474 posts
Whatever it is,
I'm against it
Wed 30 Oct 2013
at 12:45
  • msg #13

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

jase:
My only concern with a template is the potential to annoy those who aren't actually doing a RTJ, which I'm sure does happen!

You mean if RTJ is being used as a Private Message ... perhaps we need both RTJ and PM, then, rather than making RTJ do double duty ? <g,d,r>

Mortixx:
As a GM i like to see if potential players actually read the RTJ thread.

I didn't envisage an RTJ template replacing the RTJ thread - in fact the thread would be completely separate ... the idea (at least the way I see it) is that once the prospective player hits the RTJ button, the GM could have the PM populated with all the questions that must be answered for the RTJ to be considered ... that is if the GM has set up an RTJ template - it'd be entirely optional for them. :>
adrasteia1
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Thu 31 Oct 2013
at 14:05
  • msg #14

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

I don't know. I think it's really up to the GM, what they're looking for. The age statement part on an adult game could be really handy in a templatish format though because it's a bit of a hassle having to check the wording, and because players often write it slightly differently, and you have to push them to re-write it at times. But I can also see the merit in having them write it themselves when applying to a game. I think it would be very handy to have an age statement 'yes or no' button.
PrettyBirdie1
member, 129 posts
Bird-brained
bird lover.
Thu 31 Oct 2013
at 14:18
  • msg #15

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

If it's available for the GM to just "fill-in-the-blank" for what gets put into the RTJ, then I think this would work for everyone, as those who didn't want anything could just leave it blank or say "go look at this or that" or "don't forget this" and the potential player could.
bigbadron
moderator, 14021 posts
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but mostly he's Ron.
Thu 31 Oct 2013
at 14:22

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

In reply to adrasteia1 (msg # 14):

There is already an age statement button though.  If you set the game to Adult then, yes, you automatically need age statements.  :)
Skald
moderator, 475 posts
Whatever it is,
I'm against it
Thu 31 Oct 2013
at 14:27
  • msg #17

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

Exactly - template solution would be completely optional - GM can put in whatever THEY require in their RTJ, or choose to leave it blank.
Gaffer
member, 995 posts
Ocoee FL
Over 35 yrs RPGing
Thu 31 Oct 2013
at 14:33
  • msg #18

Re: Show rtj requirements when writing the rtj

I'm going -1 on this idea.

As a player, I like to know what's required of me in the RTJ before I begin to write it. I don't want to click on the RTJ button and discover that the GM wants stuff I'm not prepared to create at that point. If other people are unable to cut/paste the way I do, I'm sorry, but I usually take all of that info to a Word document to complete it and save it before I submit.

As a GM, I don't want to have to work around a set template that may not address what I'm looking for. I also don't want to have to do my RTJ thread and then port all of that over to yet another location. And I want the RTJs saved to PM, especially if they involve an Adult age statement, so that I don't have to keep track of something else.

As an observer of Rpol, I am skeptical that enough GMs will find this satisfactory and/or take the time to use it to make it worthwhile. I'd suggest that 'secret word' GMs intention is to make their passwords sufficiently obscure to be certain a player has really paid attention to the pre-application threads, rather than just scanning them because they know there's a trick to the RTJ.
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