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Unfortunately, due to lack of knowledge with most systems at a DM level, I can't run a game with an actual system.

That being said, the good news is that there are fairly well-established rules in both games. You do have stats (it's a pretty standard points-spread deal) so how you interact with someone else isn't just left up to how the GM is feeling that day (a personal annoyance of mine).

I totally get if you're more comfortable with a system, but if you'd like to lurk or even just check out the character creation process for either game, you might find that it's far better than you think. I played a lot of BAD freeform games and decided I wanted to make a very good one.

As for joining a fresh game, the pirates game is quite fresh - we haven't finished our first IC day so there's plenty of room for you to sign on (and plenty of ladies to enjoy the company of).

If that doesn't appeal to you, I totally get it and wish you the best of luck finding a more structured game. :)

Well, i think i could lurk a bit and see if i can change my mind. no promises though. :)

Interestingly enough, I've been missing my old 1e games/gaming groups, where such things as romances were a possibility. Not a given, but when you ran into the same NPCs regularly, or sometimes found good chemistry between two PCs, something could evolve from that. It wasn't the focus of, or the purpose of, the game -- but the potential existed. It added a deeper layer of depth to the world.
This message was last edited by the user at 23:59, Tue 21 Nov 2017.

Exactly. RPGs don't need to be always only about the players defeating the monsters and villains. the challenges a relationship between the player or NPC can be as hard as defeating the villain next door. i always found that romance was missing in most of the games i played. i mean, one time or another a character must have felt something, be it love or even lust for someone in the group or an NPC they encountered. as you wrote, a romance adds depth to a history.

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if anyone jumps up for this to be an ad&d game or 3.5 I'd get in! rescuing the princess is the standard in my mind but never seems to happen so I'd be very pleased to play in a game like that

I'm running a romance game set in Regency England (c 1813). Austen/Heyer/Bronte stuff.

It is freeform, but we have a very mature team of both sexes who have established a realistic feel without any need for rules. It is a Mature rated game, so we fade to black where necessary. You are welcome to lurk to see if you would be interested.

Again, this is exactly what i'm looking for except it is freeform. i would rather like to play with a actual system. but thanks for you offer. :)

Hi Diego,
I'm not plugging my game any more, I can take no for an answer, but I'm curious about how you use rules in a romance? Romance is just about the most personal and subjective of play topics. It's not "I rolled a 1 so your character successfully woos mine" is it?

I'm not talking about rules involving simple interactions or relationship, but rules when there is combat and other stuff.

While combat would not be a primary focus of a romance oriented game, it will happen sometime or another.

I don't feel comfortable playing a freeform game because everything seems to be open for discussion.

I would like the game to have the backup of some stablished rules.
This message was last edited by the user at 16:55, Wed 22 Nov 2017.

I see. I do that in most games, but it's never come up in that one.

Yeah, we always just let chemistry decide whether or not a romance happened. Sometimes, a player just likes the NPC, and decides their PC does, too.

If it were between PCs, we'd discuss if, and how easily and completely, we wanted to have our PCs romance happen. Sometimes it was more fun to have a tempestuous, on again, off again relationship develop -- if it fit the characters to behave that way, of course.
This message was last edited by the user at 00:10, Thu 23 Nov 2017.

Bump. still looking for this.

I just realized that the Blue Rose RPG may be the best option for this.

7th sea would be an excellent choice imo. What's more romantic than a swashbuckling pirate type?

In reply to Bod Man (msg # 21):

that's good but so is the old knight/princess

I don't know 7th sea, but Blue Rose seems to be designed exaclty for this the kind of game i'm looking for.

I just need to buy the book now.

In reply to DiegoD89 (msg # 19):

I am not a fan of freeform for a number of reasons. However, when I was still giving freeform a try, it seemed to me that there was always lots of romances going on. I think because there is no game mechanics that seem to slant toward combat. Players just seemed more open to social interaction, including romance.

Yeah, i know it has it's advantages but i can't really like freeform. i guess i like to play a game where i have it's the rules in my hand.

I might suggest a PBtA game like Monsterhearts. Easy to learn if one of the earlier posters is willing to GM with (minimal) stats/rules, and with mechanics in place for combat. Mostly focuses on teen/new adult monsters in high school/early college dealing with feeling out of place and confused and a bit dramatic and emotional -- prime time for messy and hyper-romantic moments to occur. But also with some intrigue that can become more of a plot beyond the romance. Or you can focus on a social struggle rather than any supernatural threat.

Just putting the idea out there.

Pbta is interesting. You mentioned supers in your original post. Masks is a good superhero system pbta. And it does focus on relationships and role playing.

Another superhero system that focuses on relationships (not necessarily romantic ones) is Smallville. This is a cortex game. Not sure how gameplay actually flows but character creation is a thing of beauty where all the interwoven relationships are setup.

Personally, I feel like less crunchy systems lend themselves better to the intense level of role play a romance is going to require. The systems you mention are all, shall we say, heavy on the mechanics side, and that can get in the way sometimes. I agree with you on shunning free form. That's not a game to me. But I do think systems like Pathfinder and Champions put a lot of emphasis on mechanics.

Are you willing to explore a different system?
This message was last edited by the user at 05:50, Mon 11 Dec 2017.

Well, i guess that depends of what you have in mind for the game. also, what is a PBta game?

Powered by the Apocalypse. It is a narrative system that has been used to "hack" different genres.