I would like to mention here an idea a friend of mine told me and I immediately wanted it to happen.

Let's say "overarching struggle against central evil"
The gods (Evil, good, chaotic, lawful and everything between) have fallen to a mysterious invasion from demons/devils/Other planes. Their mightiest heroes are killed. They have to resort to those who have little to no change to succeed to restore the lives of the mightiest heroes so they can win the war for the gods.

They are level 20 singleclass characters. No big magic and with a paladin theme/limitations.

Classes available:
Paladin 20(Religious Paladin in all its variety of forms, like Paladin of Slaughter)
Ranger 20 (Nature Paladin. Good BAB and limited spellcasting)
Hexblade 20(Arcane Paladin. Good BAB and limited spellcasting)
Crusader 20(Martial Paladin. Good BAB, strong religious bonds)
Sohei 20(Oriental Paladin. Strong Religious bonds, llimited spellcasting)
Soulborn 20(Incarnum Paladin. Good BAB, Strong religious bonds, limited meldshaping)
Divine Mind 20(Psionic Paladin. Strong Religious Bonds, limited manifesting)

Even if it is a 20th level game, the inability of casting 9th level spells/powers should make things a little easier. In fact, a little too easy. We may need some dragon magazines to survive as a character with that class limitations. Except we don't need the ASF that gives manifesting from level 1 to the ranger. The idea is that we all have limited spellcasting.
And the gods give special and expressed permission to paladins to associate with evil people, if some players want to play naughty. After all, with all the enemies before us, we will have little time to attack each other.

If noone likes that idea, I have no problem in a game with Dungeons and politics.

I was hoping for a mix of dungeons or wilderness exploration myself but I don't want to start at 20th level. That takes some of the fun out of it for me. To be honest I like some of the ideas put forth but would rather start at a lower level.

I can't really see a basis for an argument against the idea as in to say it would not work for the overall setting of d&d because it is not mine it comes straight from the game makers but whatever it was just something I was suggesting to easily accommodate everyone I think it was in Shield and Faith but I could easily be mistaken about that.

I can just as easily get behind any other basic idea to

I think military concepts are the most interesting but wilderness/dungeon crawls should be fine to

I also agree starting at 20th level would be a mistaken he is looking to play a Paladin, you learn about a class by playing it. honestly I think starting at level  2 or 3 would be ideal. Higher then that you start to miss some things, that's my advice anyway.

oh btw I think Politics is a huge mistake for a game where a guy can try out a Paladin. Paladins are all about right and wrong and Politics is anything but.

does everyone know what type character they would like to play? that might actually help Ras to settle on an overall game concept

Perhaps there lies the challenge of the Paladin. Make politics lawful and good.

But I would like to ask to the OP and our tentative GM what would be the alignment allowed. Gamer75 voiced an intention to play an antipaladin. Would the challenge of players with opposed alignments be welcomed to morganalefay and RosstoFalstaff?

I would like to join as well if this happens.

actually I voiced the interest in the antipaladin for if we went with my setting idea, if we go with a different idea I'd probably play a different concept
I have not played an arcane caster in awhile for example

or a Druid would be helpful if we do Wilderness Exploration

I am really ope to most ideas. Whatever Ros wants to do is fine by me. Even with an antihero. That would be fun to RP.

In reply to morganalefay (msg # 25):

I thought that as well because to me the interplay would be interesting. If everyone is ok with that I can still  play that concept, OR I can play a L/N type which would be frustrating for a Paladin to deal with as well because sometimes our goals would fit neatly together and sometimes not.
I'm good with whatever.

I'm even good playing a failed Paladin. Or someone who while still good maybe went another direction and never wanted to atone so can't level as a Paladin again etc

Overall individual concepts can be made to fit most ideas we just need to know what we are going with overall.

I'd also be ok with playing a Cleric, every party should have one and if I am a follower of the same diety as the Paladin that would explain why we work together
just another idea

well I hope this takes off
I love 3.5

another suggestion, a Dragon Hunting type game?
Younger/smaller dragons could have dungeons to crawl, they can be found in the wilderness of course and evil dragons make great enemies for Paladins...
they are good for virtually any level game so...
if that will help I have a well thought out Dragon Hunter concept I have wanted to play for awhile and he would fit fine with a Paladin
I think this game would have broad appeal so hopefully

A dragon hunting game sounds fun! I would be interested and tend to get along well with Paladins.

I'd be more than interested in participating. I'd probably touch a Chaotic Neutral character or neutral good if the rest of the party would play good alignments. I'm very paladin friendly (or sneaky as to showing I am) considering all my previous games included one or two. I'd also throw my vote with military or dragon hunting, but more than okay with any type.

Alright, I'll be making a game some time today with an eye towards following the OPs wishes firstmost. Watch this space!

Woohoo! thanks. also i could get behind dragon hunting if that's what folks want to do

Excellent!
I would advise against a "against X kind of enemy" game, though. Rangers seems to be the only ones who get the fun.

I didn't mean Dragons would be the only thing we ever bumped into....
but whatever we decide to go with do we have any idea what character creation is going to be like or what level? I think since Morganl wants to experience playing a Paladin starting low is better so he gets the full range of it

It shouldn't be very low level, unless we want to slay baby dragons.

I don't think they wanted to go with the overall Dragon idea
but I'm in for whatever!
is it going to be basic Greyhawk?

morganalefay was in the boat. And GM will consider the OP's wishes.

The game is bare (busy day yesterday, sorry!)

But will be populated quickly in the coming hour. Thank you again for your patience, and looking forward to some apps!

link to another game

Okay, ready for RTJs!

so I didn't see a starting level in the thing are we starting from level 1 or have you not determined that yet?

also did you decide the overall world we are going to be playing in
did you go with the dragon hunting idea or not? I had a specific concept for the dragon hunting game but he might be fun toplay in general
or I might rtj with something else

Very sorry, 3rd level and the plan is a mixed group of random encounter foes with an emphasis on planned dragon fight set pieces.