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Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

Posted by Sardis
Sardis
member, 534 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Sun 1 Mar 2015
at 00:57
  • msg #1

Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

As a fan of playing a druid summoner in the Diablo franchise of video games, I'm looking for a GM to run a game that might provide for that sort of feel. (Though, I'm not necessarily looking for a strictly hack and slash game, so other elements of a more D&D nature would also be welcome, ie: character development, diplomacy, intrigue/mystery, campaigning, etc).

To make my Summoner Diablo-esque, I'd like to utilize the Recharge Magic Variant from Unearthed Arcana as well as the Monster Summoning Variant - Individualized Summoning List (using option 4 as described in Unearthed Arcana).

Am looking to utilize a fairly wide range of 3.0/3.5 source material (ie: Fiend Folio, Lost Empires of Faerun, Player's Guide to Eberron, Eberron Campaign Setting, Magic Item Compendium, Complete series of books, traits/flaws from Unearthed Arcana, and possibly others.

I'd like to create my own cleric domains:

Unnatural Summoning - Domain Spells = summon monster spells I-IX
Domain Power = You cast all summon monster spells at +2 caster level

Gain +2 to CL when casting summon monster spells

Natural Summoning - Domain Spells = summon nature's ally spells I-IX
Domain Power =  You cast all summon nature's ally spells at +2 caster level.

(The Domain Power's are considerably weaker than that of the already existing 'Summoner' domain, as they apply to only one type of summoning conjuration spell instead of all of them, and isn't applied to calling conjuration spells...so perhaps some room for negotiation? I have a few ideas.)

I'm open to a small group of no more than 4-5, each focused in different class areas based on those of Diable classes (Amazon, Barbarian, Necromancer, Paladin, Sorcerer, Assassin, Druid)  I've only listed those classes available in Diablo 2, but am open to the use of other classes (ie: those found in Diablo I and III).

Note: My hope would be to find a GM who can find a way to ensure that leveling happens with some degree of frequency...perhaps a level a month (if not faster given the increased amount of combat that recharge magic allows for).

This message was last edited by the user at 01:15, Sun 01 Mar 2015.
Zeke Argo
member, 15 posts
Sun 1 Mar 2015
at 06:00
  • msg #2

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

I've actually been dying to join a game like this.  A gestalt Roguelike in 3.5 would be completely amazing, and ive already got some ideas for the kind of class I'd play.  Consider me sigened up for this game if a GM can be found.
ricosuave
member, 115 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2015
at 02:19
  • msg #3

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

This would be fun


But if its gestalt why are you asking for new domains when you can just be a druid, who can Summo Nature Ally spontaneously? and a class that has access to the Summon Monster line of spells?

Unless all you are wanting are those to last 2 extra rounds at first level, there is a feat somewhere that allows your summons to last X rounds = Cha Modfier.


those extra 2 rounds are nice at the first three levels but fall off rapidly thereafter and by 7th level are basically pointless, if not already.

It would prob be better to just start off at a higher level like 4th or so.
Sardis
member, 535 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Mon 2 Mar 2015
at 02:34
  • msg #4

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

ricosuave:
This would be fun


But if its gestalt why are you asking for new domains when you can just be a druid, who can Summon Nature's Ally spontaneously? and a class that has access to the Summon Monster line of spells?

Unless all you are wanting are those to last 2 extra rounds at first level, there is a feat somewhere that allows your summons to last X rounds = Cha Modifier.

those extra 2 rounds are nice at the first three levels but fall off rapidly thereafter and by 7th level are basically pointless, if not already.

It would prob be better to just start off at a higher level like 4th or so.


If it was just a matter of gaining Summon Nature's Ally spells and Summon Monster spells, I could simply go with Archivist...the fact is, I don't have the desire to use planar ally spells and the gate spell, so the current Summoning domain doesn't work for me.  It is my game concept that I'm requesting a GM for, so if I want to be able to create domains then what does it matter to you?

As for the feat you mention...never heard of it.  If you are going to throw something like that out there, at least have the decency to provide a reference for it.

As for starting at a higher level...the idea is to create a 'Diablo' like feel...you don't start as a 4th level character in Diablo...you start at 1st...so I prefer this game starting at 1st...thank you.
ricosuave
member, 116 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2015
at 03:11
  • msg #5

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

I did not mean to get you upset


I was just wondering why you are asking for gestalt and a domain that gives you both summon lists, when its kind of moot as with gestalt you can already get both lists if you wanted to without having to resort to homebrew.


and I was letting you know of a feat (Adept Summoner) that increases the duration of summons; if all you were looking for is just a way to have is last longer than 1 round at 1st level.


and provided the opportunity to have the starting level be  higher so your summons last longer.


translating Diablo-esque into D&D would actually mean you start higher like 3rd or 4th with how many enemies you can chew through

in diablo you can jump into a crowd of 20-25 fallen and come out with what half of your HP gone at most.

you are not getting a 1st level D&D character being able to rush into combat solo against a score of goblins and come out relatively unharmed.
Sardis
member, 536 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Mon 2 Mar 2015
at 03:51
  • msg #6

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

ricosuave:
I did not mean to get you upset


I was just wondering why you are asking for gestalt and a domain that gives you both summon lists, when its kind of moot as with gestalt you can already get both lists if you wanted to without having to resort to homebrew.

and I was letting you know of a feat (Adept Summoner) that increases the duration of summons; if all you were looking for is just a way to have it last longer than 1 round at 1st level.

and provided the opportunity to have the starting level be higher so your summons last longer.

translating Diablo-esque into D&D would actually mean you start higher like 3rd or 4th with how many enemies you can chew through

in diablo you can jump into a crowd of 20-25 fallen and come out with what half of your HP gone at most.

you are not getting a 1st level D&D character being able to rush into combat solo against a score of goblins and come out relatively unharmed.

Regarding the request for 2 new domains to gain access to the SNA and SM series of spells vs gestalting druid with cleric...I wanted to leave myself open for other 'options' in building this summoner.

As for the feat, Adept Summoner, from what I can find via google, it is a homebrewed 3rd party feat, so how is that any different than requesting homebrewed domains?  Not to mention, the concept of Corruption isn't something I'm interested in wading into.

And although my preference would be to start at 1st, I would be fine with starting 3rd or 4th of a prospective GM prefered that as a starting point.
Sardis
member, 537 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Mon 2 Mar 2015
at 03:57
  • msg #7

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

also, in the past I've had more luck attracting GM's to a very low starting level for gestalt games...over higher ones...less for them to initially concern themselves with (especially when it comes to character creation).
Zeke Argo
member, 16 posts
Mon 2 Mar 2015
at 19:24
  • msg #8

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

I'd also say it depends on which Diablo experience your referring to.  D2-d3 sure, you can go In Swinging but in d1 if you activate too many skeletons on dlvl 1-2 you can easily get swarmed and stunlocked if you can't find a good choke point.  Hell scavengers can be worse on the same level, never mind getting one of the uniques
Sardis
member, 538 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Tue 3 Mar 2015
at 03:20
  • msg #9

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

preferably more d2/d3
Karack
member, 110 posts
Wed 4 Mar 2015
at 20:46
  • msg #10

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

Might also be interested in joining this, depending on char creation and posting rate.

Also, are you thinking of combat as more cinematic, where monsters die quickly and spectacularly, or more difficult, where the characters are challenged by each monster? If the latter, how will that work for a pbp (other than extremely slowly)?
This message was last edited by the user at 20:50, Wed 04 Mar 2015.
Sardis
member, 539 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Mon 9 Mar 2015
at 17:46
  • msg #11

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

Bump.

As for the question in the last post (msg #10), one of my stipulations was regularly frequent leveling, so as long as that happens I'm really not too worried how combat is run.
V_V
member, 443 posts
You can call me V, just V
Life; a journey made once
Wed 11 Mar 2015
at 08:44
  • msg #12

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

I have a question for you, Sardis, but the others are welcome to voice their choice. Would you be willing to use a simple online mapping program? Having to post custom maps to a hosting sight and then link it to RPOL takes longer than just editing an online map and giving the link. I might be interested in GMing it, but I'd like more information first and that would be a major point of consideration.

I'd want open character creation too, so there are no bad surprises when it comes to custom creations. Would you be alright with that?
Sardis
member, 540 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Wed 11 Mar 2015
at 21:47
  • msg #13

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

If there is an in game link that takes me straight to what it is I'm supposed to see, then I'm good with that.

And I'm not sure what you mean by open character creation...open to who? Just you, or all players? If just you, that's what I would have assumed.
Zeke Argo
member, 18 posts
Thu 12 Mar 2015
at 05:07
  • msg #14

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

That all sounds pretty good to me v_v.
Karack
member, 112 posts
Sat 14 Mar 2015
at 17:22
  • msg #15

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

sounds good to me too.
Sardis
member, 541 posts
Nova Scotia, Canada
Mon 16 Mar 2015
at 20:48
  • msg #16

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

Bump

Hey V_V, where you still interested?
V_V
member, 445 posts
You can call me V, just V
Life; a journey made once
Mon 16 Mar 2015
at 23:10
  • msg #17

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

Probably. I'm going over the campaign idea I have so I can pitch it. It's also probably going to be best to use a current (generic 3.5) board that only has an inactive solo game currently. That way I can just convert it over completely to this if that player never comes back.

As for open character creation, I meant that custom content should be open to everyone. Your domains, for instance, everyone knows about. If someone else wanted their own custom creation, I'd want that available, to you if nothing else. That way no one is terribly upset at something they feel "slipped in" that might upset the game.

If you want to RTJ to the board you can. Though I will warn you the board isn't really ready yet. The introduction references a thread that doesn't exist yet. This homebrew rules thread isn't posted yet, which is why it's not visible.

If you want to wait, you can do that too. In either case I'll be working on it in the next few weeks.

Here's the link, for now.
link to another game
This message was last edited by the user at 01:01, Tue 17 Mar 2015.
Medeval_Metal_Head13
member, 93 posts
Sat 21 Mar 2015
at 06:22
  • msg #18

Re: Diablo-esque DnD 3.5 gestalt (1st level)

I'd love to join this, may I be the Barbarian?
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