You should feel no obligation to be courteous to a person who has not been courteous to you. Refusing to remove you from a game after politely being asked is fairly discourteous. That being said, since games are a collaborative effort, your character belongs as much to the gm and the other players in the game as it does to you once you start posting, unless you've made specific alternate agreements. It can be fairly disruptive for characters to suddenly vanish that way. I'd suggest that you not use material that you intend to be private intellectual property on a public forum operated under Creative Commons.

I disagree completely, while the world may belong to the GM the player characters are in my opinion the intellectual property of the player who designed, fleshed out, and progressed the character.
For a GM to steal said character from a player for any reason is nothing short of plagerism and intellectual theft.

In reply to chas0105 (msg # 29):

Your opinion is yours to have, but the site's rules disagree with you.

But it isn't though. That's what Creative Commons means. Basically, unless you make another contract with your gm, all material in the game is essentially shared property. This is what allows players to make"copycat" games when the original game closes or goes inactive. If Creative Commons wasn't in force, all of those games that use material from previous games (even defunct ones) wouldn't be able to operate. Unfortunately, this also applies to characters designed by players. Can't have it both ways I'm afraid.

In reply to Jordan Task (msg # 31):

Which is why it clearly states if a DM marks a game as sole propery, everything in the game, including PCs, belong to the DM.

Yes, there's that as well. But even that doesn't prevent someone from starting a copycat game using the original content in question if the original goes defunct. It just prevents others from asking the mods to resurrect it when it's dead.
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I'm not sure where you get the idea that RPoL runs under Creative Commons.  There was a poll to see if it should, but with no clear majority in favour of it, the idea was dropped.  link to a message in another game

I'm  a fairly slow posting GM in my games, but I keep up with my players and honor any requests for removal. I've always taken the polite path when it was available in my own requests for removal and have had just one very rude player who I removed from a game recently.

In reply to bigbadron (msg # 34):

Hmm. Fair enough.

In reply to Grimmond (msg # 13):

i know what you mean! there seems to be one player in particular i have tussled with. and the beef either seems to be jealousy over my charactor, compared to theirs, or because of my more moral behaviors i exibit with my charactors. i thought it was just a clash of charactor personality, which is good roleplaying! but then, i have made other charactors within the same game, and so have they, and now we have two different charactors, yet they are still being douchy towards my charactor!! hahaha

*character

In reply to Raygun

Some children just don't play well with others ! I am a grand father now, and in both the real world and here I see it ALL the time. In RL I run a few games a month at a local shop, and I am ALWAYS leery about allowing anyone without grey hair at my table. Maybe as we get older we just don't make so many waves and the competitiveness of RL is not allowed so much into our down time.  :)

I play in several monthly games, some with just adults, some with high school kids and a 50 year age spread.

Age is rarely an indicator of maturity or concern for others. It's how the parents brought them up, whether they are 18 or 68 year olds!

Azzuri said "Age is rarely an indicator of maturity"

And I do quite agree. However, I just do not have much in common with a 16 year old and things go smoother for my group when we are all grey haired. Maybe it's us ? Maybe it's just our perception. Maybe it's that we don't play Pokémon Go.  :)

Disruptive players occur in all demographic groups. I don't think age (or the presence of gray hair) has anything to do with it. It comes down to personality types and how those different personalities mesh with one another.

The last game I ran face-to-face consisted of players ranging from 19 years old (the baby of the group) to early 50s, with most being in their mid to late 20s. The nice thing about playing with different generations is you get different ideas and ways to approach the game. Younger players sometimes come up with interesting ways to take the game in a whole new direction, but it can require some patience at times.

On the flip side, older players sometimes are jaded (been there done that).

In the end, these are both generalizations. People are people and come in many different flavors. The important thing is finding a group that works well together, and age is only one small factor in that equation.

:)

Frankly, I have more to speak about to one of the 18 year olds than to most of those a generation or two older.

He's still in school and can speak about many things. Many of the oldsters can't seem to think much beyond their jobs, health, or sex life.

So...I have rarely used the power of blackballing people, and I have vayring degrees of that as well. Someone who rage quits, meh I figure we just didn't mesh. So long as they don't do a table flip (physical or otherwise) I will generally just say something along the lines of "I'd rather not play with this individual, if possible."
I have had a couple of individuals who attempted a lot of stuff that I'll just say *mumble* (not allowed on rpol) that took me right to the edge of "I won't play with that person, in their games, nor will I GM them." I also warn people away from them because of these actions that they do frequently.
I think the key is, whatever disagreements can happen, try to keep it private as much as possible. Sometimes it isnt, but attempting to do so is for the best.
Now, let me not say that I'm the best of that at all times. But, the attempt, I think is the best way to go with it, as long as it's possible.

I had a GM that was, in my opinion, cheating so I said good bye to the players and then the GM.

I had a player who thought the same of me, but after I booted them for arguing I copied the dice log and revealed that I was following the published rules to the T, including the recently released errata. Being that I was a co-gm, they could have asked the head gm and gotten the same answer, I had privated every step I took in the combat to gm so they could see what I was doing.

A player cannot claim to be a rules lawyer if they don't know the rules xD

In reply to karuoun (msg # 46):

I get the impression he was talking about someone breaking the rules, not just fudging dice rolls. Those are two different arguments.

In reply to willvr (msg # 47):

The player had accused me of breaking the rules and of fudging the rolls when the fight wasn't going his way

After a lengthy argument I removed him from the game for his terrible attitude, he PMd me through his RTJ thread to gloat about being right in his accusations ( I didn't ban him, just removed him)

I then proceeded to show that not only did I not fudge the rolls, I was followimg the published rules to the T.

The player didn't respond after being shown the dice log and the chat log and linked SRD for the rules and RAW.

:/
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had a time when we were playing d&d 3rd ed, just a few yrs ago. mid 20's and early 30's comprised the group, and our DM was late 40's. but he started acting weird, belittled other players, and put my character on a pedestal. which was very uncomfortable, to say the least.. after some discussion with the other players, we decided we didn't wanna play with him anymore. when we finally told him, aw man! imagine seeing a 400 lb grey haired man throw a tantrum. he shook, and hollered, and crumpled up his dungeon master screen, folders, and threw his dice in the trash can. hehehehe.... weirdo.

Sounds like he was really emotionally invested in the game,

Maybe he was upset you didn't bring your grievances to him first before conspiring with the rest of the table

yeah. he was, but a little too much so. We were desperate to play, so we all put up with it for a few months. i was bard, and we had a cleric, and a ranger, and a thief. the ranger and thief quit eventually, and the cleric and i hung on in quiet desperation just because we wanted to play, and he wasn't a bad DM in other respects, lots of good, old school-type ideas, good range of doing different voices for NPC's etc. finally, it just got too weird as we lost 2 people, the sheer bias was glaringly obvious at that point.

i felt like i was being attempted to be made into his lap dog.