In reply to Elaina Grattan (msg # 55):

the steam does damage despite resist fire- it is hot water not fire.

the water jet does nothing but irritate the flame lord; it seems to have some degree of damage resistance.

"That didn't help at all!"  The younger sister backs away, looking around for anything that might help.

The elder sister drops the fire-shortened whip and steps toward the flame lord, speaking and gesturing -- and on completing the casting, falls to her knees.

OOC: closing to two yards and casting.

[Private to GM: 19:09, Today: Evelina Grattan rolled 18 using 3d6.  Extinguish Fire (2 hex, 6 FP) roll to cast (12).  Ah, hell.
19:10, Today: Evelina Grattan rolled 6 using 3d6.  Crit Spell Failure Roll. Wrong target, companion if harmful, random enemy if beneficial -- not sure how Extinguish Fire fits that, but she's also a Weirdness Magnet...
Using Extraordinary Luck to reroll the casting: 19:13, Today: Evelina Grattan rolled 9 using 3d6.  Extinguish Fire (2 hex, 6 FP) roll to cast (12).  Should take in the Flame Lord and one hex all around him.]
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In reply to Flame Lord (msg # 56):

Odd, in Magic it refers to the damage as fire damage, and uses resist fire to cast breathe steam, so I was thinking that would protect. But if not, what sort of damage is applied, so I can work out how to resist it.

She is kind of an expert in fire elementals, and I believe has fought these ones before, so what would damage them? Has any damage been done to them by the waterjet?

All out attack.  Masugatan tries to ram his Butcher’s Blade into the back of the flame lord, although he fears damaging the weapon.

14:44, Today: Masugatan rolled 12 using 2d6+3.  Cutting dam.
14:43, Today: Masugatan rolled 11 using 3d6.  To hit.
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In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 59):

the water jet would do damage, but has bary penetrated its DR.  make an IQ roll

In reply to Narrator (msg # 61):

Ok. Maybe she has a better idea...

[Private to GM: Rolled 6 under IQ]

The elder sister struggles weakly to remove her backpack, her face a mask and her breath rapid and shallow.

The younger sister, seeing her beloved Holiness fall (and lacking the medical knowledge to recognize her condition), drops her useless sling and launches herself screaming at the flame lord.

[Private to GM: Close and grapple.
19:01, Today: Elaina Grattan rolled 11 using 3d6.  Grapple: DX to grab (12).]

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 62):

most fire elementals have water or steam as a weakness. Flame lords do not have it as a weakness, though it may harm them...
what is the opposite of heat?


steam causes heat damage not fire. I reviewed the spells and resist fire doesn't help- it is injurious to ice and fire elementals though

In reply to Narrator (msg # 65):

Clearly cold is the opposite of fire, but there are almost no spells, other than icy Breath and frostbite, that actually do cold damage. Even snow jet does not...

The description in magic for resist fire I have been using says



If you use a different definition, happy with that though would be good to know. Is there a spell "Resist Heat"? For future reference, what is your definition of the spell?

OOC: was there any effect from Evelina's Extinguish Fire?

In reply to Evelina Grattan (msg # 67):

it put out the fireball in the Creatures hand.

I was looking at the specifications of the various Steam spells.

ice dagger is a cold spell for these purposes

In reply to Narrator (msg # 68):

Yeah, good with the steam spells doing heat damage. It is the difference between the effects of Resist fire, that I thought covered heat due to the section quoted above that have me concerned.

If ice dagger does cold damage, then can I use that instead after the first waterjet, which I specifically learner to fight these guys after last time?

OOC: Did my attack hurt it at all?

In reply to Masugatan (msg # 70):

Masugatan hurt itmore than most of these attacks.  as you just figured out that Water jet does damage if it bypasses DR but might not be something it has a weakness to, you can proceed from this point.

It just feels weird that something like geyser or steam jet would be affected by resist fire be ause of which vlasses of elemental they affect.

a lot of the attempts to damage this guy have been foiled by his DR; the steam explosion did 1d-3 ,

In reply to Flame Lord (msg # 71):

Right.

Still not clear on the difference between the effects of Resist fire, that I thought covered heat due to the section quoted above and the definition used by yourself, Narrator, which does not. Would really appreciate your clarification so I can work out damage to Christine from the steam.

But for now, seeing the waterjet ineffective, she will cast ice dagger and step away from the critter.

[Private to GM: Rolled 8 under effective skill to cast.]

The younger sister, now holding the elemental in a grapple, attempts to take him off his feet.

[Private to GM: Takedown Attempt: Quick Contest of highest of ST, DX, or Grappling skill.
19:11, Today: Evelina Grattan rolled 13 using 3d6.  Takedown: DX 12
MOS -1; if I win, he goes down prone, else Elaina does.]

Since his attack seems to have borne at least some fruit, and as the creature seems tied up, Masugatan drives his blade into the creature for a second time.

19:57, Today: Masugatan rolled 11 using 3d6.  to hit.
19:58, Today: Masugatan rolled 6 using 2d6+3
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In reply to Elaina Grattan (msg # 73):

you are able to gauge that he is slightly stroger than you, but not as strong as Masugatan,and he does reverse the grapple, which occupies him... and Masugatan strikes him hard again!

In reply to Flame Lord (msg # 75):

Christine threw her icedagger at the burning creature to add her damage to it...

[Private to GM: Rolled 5, skill 15, damage 3.]

In reply to Christine Bjorn (msg # 76):

the icicle melts,not being large enough to damage the creature... who was about to punch Masugatan,but backs away from Christine!

In reply to Flame Lord (msg # 77):

Christine tries to work out why he backs away, and creates a much bigger ice dagger.

[Private to GM: Rolled 7 under skill to cast. Margery 3, so 3d max, right?]

The younger sister, now grappled by the flame lord, lets out a wordless shout and aims a blow at his face with all her strength.

[Private to GM: 18:18, Today: Evelina Grattan rolled 3 using 3d6.  All-out Attack, Determined, to face (Punch, 12 + 4 AOA - 5 face).
18:20, Today: Evelina Grattan rolled 1 using 1d6-2.  Damage (1d - 2 cr) .]

Masugatan aims his blade for the monster’s back one more time.

19:31, Today: Masugatan rolled 10 using 2d6+3.  Cutting damage.
19:30, Today: Masugatan rolled 11 using 3d6.  To hit.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:31, Mon 24 Oct 2022.